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| sent on August 23, 2023 (9:01) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Namely?! .... I didn't understand the description :-/ Cioè?!....non ho capito la descrizione  |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (9:23) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I didn't understand either! :-or Non ho capito nemmeno io!  |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (9:40) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Too tight, between heat and late hour ...
The month of July I spent in Formia, the sky was almost always clean and I took advantage of it for some shots of some bright points (too large to be one of our neighbors of the solar system) that transit at the same time, this published was visible between 20.30 and 22 approximately; another (similar image) instead I noticed an hour later and in a higher position.
I think they are one of those satellites dedicated to communications.
Troppo stringata, tra caldo e ora tarda...
Il mese di luglio l'ho trascorso a Formia, il cielo si è presentato quasi sempre pulito e ne ho approfittato per qualche scatto ad alcuni punti luminosi (troppo grandi per essere uno dei nostri vicini del sistema solare) che transitano alla stessa ora, questo pubblicato era visibile tra le 20,30 e le 22 circa; un altro (immagine simile) invece lo notavo un'ora dopo e in una posizione più alta.
Credo siano di quei satelliti dedicati alle comunicazioni.
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| sent on August 23, 2023 (9:43) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
“ I think they are one of those satellites dedicated to communications. „ Were they orbiting? In the sense, did they move in a noticeable way compared to the other objects of the celestial vault? Because for any object that is in LEO (Lower Earth Orbit) 1h30 of visibility is too much, it takes time of the order of minutes to cross the sky, from when they "rise" to when they "set". " Credo siano di quei satelliti dedicati alle comunicazioni." Orbitavano? Nel senso, si muovevano in maniera evidente rispetto agli altri oggetti della volta celeste? Perché per qualunque oggetto che si trova in LEO (Lower Earth Orbit) 1h30 di visibilità è troppo, ci mettono tempi dell'ordine dei minuti ad attraversare la volta celeste, da quando "sorgono" a quando "tramontano". |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (9:49) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
The lens, as indicated, is the 40-150mm f2.8 zuiko with 1.4 magnifier. The final result is 210 which corresponds to 420mm considered the m4/3.
L'obiettivo, come indicato, è il 40-150mm f2.8 zuiko con ingranditore 1,4. Il risultato finale è 210 che corrisponde a 420mm considerato il m4/3.
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| sent on August 23, 2023 (9:55) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Eh, ok, so with 1/125 you photographed "a snapshot" of the object, what I did not understand is if it moved or how much.
Satellites in low orbit go fast! Eh, ok, quindi con 1/125 hai fotografato "un'istantanea" dell'oggetto, quello che non ho capito è se si muoveva o quanto.
I satelliti in orbita bassa vanno veloci! |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (9:57) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Riccardo I confirm the times, the same dot that I took I also see from Naples and in that range.
Unfortunately in the city I do not have a suitable position, I should move, but given the result I could repeat the experience.
The shooting is not instantaneous, sometimes it takes 15-20 minutes before having it in focus ... :-)
I do not exclude that the stay in the vault is greater, before 20.30 the sun is well present in July ... Riccardo ti confermo i tempi, lo stesso puntino che ho ripreso lo vedo anche da Napoli e in quella fascia.
Purtroppo in città non ho una posizione idonea, dovrei spostarmi, ma visto il risultato potrei ripetere l'esperienza.
Non è istantanea la ripresa, a volte ci impiego 15-20 minuti prima di averlo a tiro con messa a fuoco...
Non escludo che la permanenza nella volta sia maggiore, prima delle 20,30 il sole è ben presente a luglio... |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (9:58) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Ah ok, then it's a "normal" celestial body, a star! :-) ;-) Ah ok, allora è un corpo celeste "normale", una stellina!  |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (10:02) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Yes, it moves, but not visibly, for more than an hour it remains visible, then it is hidden from view by the mountains.
If you are curious I can send you some raw with which you could deduce the size ... Si, si muove, ma non a vista d'occhio, per più di un'ora resta visibile, poi viene nascosto alla vista dai monti.
Se ti incuriosisce posso inviarti qualche raw con cui potresti dedurre le dimensioni... |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (10:03) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
To me it looks like an artifact... Smooth edges, regular drawings on the surface. It will probably have different aims from communications :-) A me sembra un manufatto... bordi regolari, disegni regolari in superficie. Probabilmente avrà mire diverse dalle comunicazioni |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (10:15) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Keep in mind that a dot, even with 420mm, does not solve it with the camera.
Those shapes are the effect of diffraction and optical disturbances in my opinion.
You can try to send me the raw, so I see what it seems to me... :-P Tieni presente che un puntino, pur con 420mm, non lo risolvi con la fotocamera.
Quelle forme sono l'effetto della diffrazione e dei disturbi ottici secondo me.
Puoi provare si a mandarmi il raw, così vedo cosa mi sembra a me...  |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (10:18) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Can you give me the email in MP? Mi dai la mail in MP? |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (16:25) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Sorry but at 420mm it should be at least 10 times the full moon to see it like this....
I still don't understand Scusa ma a 420mm dovrebbe essere grande almeno 10 volte la luna piena per vederlo così....
Continuo a non capire |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (16:28) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
“ Sorry but at 420mm it should be at least 10 times the full moon to see it like this....
„ Equivalents? Anyway it's a pushed crop, it provided me with RAW. " Scusa ma a 420mm dovrebbe essere grande almeno 10 volte la luna piena per vederlo così....
" Equivalenti? Comunque è un ritaglio spinto, mi ha fornito i RAW. |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (17:03) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
As soon as I have time I measure the diameter of both (moon and bright point), shots taken with the same conditions and considering the distance in km, certain for the moon and only hypothetical for the bright point, I hope to have a value compatible with the size of a space station ...
PS if you like I send you in MP a link where to download the raw Appena ho tempo misuro il diametro di entrambi (luna e punto luminoso), scatti effettuati con le stesse condizioni e considerando la distanza in km, certi per la luna e solo ipotetici per il punto luminoso, spero di avere un valore compatibile con le dimensioni di una stazione spaziale...
PS se vi fa piacere vi invio in MP un link dove scaricare i raw |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (17:38) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
The fact is that in practice of a space station, whatever you want, the final shape observed should not be this: the long appendages of solar panels (which reflect properly, and therefore win for magnitude over the rest) that accompany them would prevail. Il fatto è che in pratica di una stazione spaziale, qualunque si voglia, la forma finale osservata non dovrebbe essere questa: prevarrebbero le lunghe appendici di pannelli solari (che riflettono a dovere, e quindi vincono per magnitudine sul resto) che le accompagnano. |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (17:48) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I speak without having seen the shot without clipping,.... Are we sure it's in focus? Parlo senza aver visto lo scatto senza ritagli,....siamo sicuri che sia a fuoco? |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (17:58) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
PhAstro if you want, I send you in MP a download link... PhAstro se vuoi, ti invio in MP un link per il download... |
| sent on August 23, 2023 (18:14) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Ok Lockdido.... you intrigued me :-P Ok Lockdido....mi hai incuriosito |
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