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The scuffle....

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The scuffle. sent on August 05, 2015 (22:48) by Fausto Pesce. 8 comments, 626 views. [retina]

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Ho assistito per una buona mezz' ora a una zuffa tra un gruppo di Gazze, supportate da due Ghiandaie, e due giovani Sparvieri in un boschetto di pioppi. In apparenza gli attacchi sembravano più intimidatori che pericolosi e ho immaginato che gazze e ghiandaie si limitassero a scacciare i due giovani sparvieri dal loro territorio. Quando ho attraversato il boschetto per allontanarmi, ho trovato una carcassa di un giovane sparviere morto da giorni. Mi è rimasto il dubbio che gazze e ghiandaie non si limitino solo a scacciare i rapaci, ma arrivino anche ad ucciderli. Qualcuno ha qualche info a tal proposito ?. Grazie.



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sent on August 06, 2015 (8:41)


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Bel momento.

Beautiful moment.

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sent on August 06, 2015 (9:44)


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" Qualcuno ha qualche info a tal proposito ?." in effetti ghiandaie e gazze sono corvidi e come tali molto aggressivi e territoriali anche con chi è più attrezzato di loro...la foto è un bel documento;-)
complimenti! un saluto:-P
francesco

Does anyone have any info about this?.
actually jays and magpies are corvids and as such very aggressive and territorial with those who are more equipped of them ... the photo is a nice document ;-)
compliments! a greeting :-P
Francesco

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sent on August 06, 2015 (10:31)


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Ciao Fausto, ottimo documento. Per rispondere alla tua domanda, non credo che i corvidi siano stati in grado di uccidere un rapace agile e veloce come lo sparviere, piuttosto penso che sia morto per cause naturali (cibo non sufficiente, incapacità di procurarselo, malattia, ecc.). Ammettendo che siano tutti figli degli stessi genitori, 3 pulli sono un po' un numero limite, è possibilissimo che uno su 3, seppur giunto allo stadio giovanile, non ce l'abbia fatta.
Saluti
Alessandro

Fausto Hello, very good document. To answer your question, I do not think that the crows were able to kill a raptor agile and fast as the sparrow hawk, rather I think it died of natural causes (not enough food, inability to procure, illness, etc.). Admitting that they are all children of the same parents, three chicks are a bit 'a number limit, it is quite possible that one in three, even reached the stage of youth, do not make it.
Greetings
Alessandro

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sent on August 06, 2015 (11:50)


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Complimenti fausto bellissimo momento.

Congratulations auspicious beautiful moment.

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sent on August 06, 2015 (13:46)


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Una bella e dinamica immagine, molto naturale. Alla tua domanda posso solo rispondere che, a detta dei contadini, le Gazze sono ancora più aggressive delle Cornacchie.

A beautiful and dynamic image, very natural. To your question I can only answer that, according to the farmers, the Magpies are still the most aggressive of the Crows.

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sent on August 06, 2015 (17:13)


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Grazie a tutti per il passaggio e per le risposte, quando mi capitano situazioni come queste mi sento proprio un ignorante , anche su animali cosi comuni da noi in Italia. La risposta di Alessandro mi pare la più logica e probabile. In effetti nei rapaci capita spesso che i pulli , nascendo in tempi diversi , crescono in modo differente e i più piccoli hanno poche probabilità di sopravvivere. Grazie a tutti e Buone Foto.

Thank you all for the transition and for the answers, when I come across situations like these I feel just an ignorant, even on animals so common here in Italy. The answer of Alexander seems to me the most logical and probable. Indeed in raptors often that the chicks, born at different times, growing up in a different way and the smaller they are unlikely to survive. Thank you and good photos.

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sent on August 07, 2015 (16:43)


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condivido in pieno le osservazioni di Alessandro, ottimo scatto e documento super ;-);-)

I fully agree with the remarks of Alexander, excellent shooting and super document ;-) ;-)

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sent on August 11, 2015 (18:05)


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Grazie Paolo per passaggio e commento, Buone Foto a te.

Thanks Paul for passage and comment, good photos to you.


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