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flash e-ttl su analogiche?


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avatarsenior
sent on 21 Giugno 2014 (0:40)    

Ciao a tutti..
Ho comprato dei flash YN-568ex ii che hanno anche la funzione e-ttl, master / slave oltre che manuale, e li ho presi per la mia 6d....

Tempo fa ho trovato una bella eos 50e colpo d "c..." Nuova rimanenza di magazzino, con due anni di garanzia addirittura, la porto sempre con me insieme alla 6d e per entrambe uso gli stessi obiettivi.

Mi chiedevo come da titolo, non è che posso usare oltre gli obiettivi della 6d anche i flash? Di solito a pellicola mi limito a scattare le foto più belle o particolari di una uscita, e la maggior parte di foto le faccio con la digitale.. Quindi diciamo non ho mai sentito l'esigenza di usare il flash. Ma c'è sempre qualche occasione in cui potrebbe tornarmi utile, soprattutto la modalità e-ttl visto che in pellicola non posso sbagliare la foto.
Qualcuno sa se funziona?

Vi ringrazio molto...

Saluti

Daniele

avatarsenior
sent on 23 Giugno 2014 (14:32)    

Mi sa che ho chiesto una cosa o troppo complicata o troppo stupida MrGreen
Se non mi consiglia nessuno mi sa che non mi resta che provare.. Se non funziona al max butto una diapositiva .. Eheh grazie lo stesso

avatarjunior
sent on 23 Giugno 2014 (14:44)    

anche se in ritardo....la EOS 50 è stata la prima Canon a utilizzare il sistema E-TTL, quindi in teoria dovrebbe funzionare senza problemi
dico "in teoria" perchè non essendo un flash originale Canon ogni tanto qualche intoppo di compatibilità c'è, in particolare con modelli un po' attempati

avatarsenior
sent on 23 Giugno 2014 (14:47)    

Funziona quasi certamente, vai tranquillo.

avatarsenior
sent on 23 Giugno 2014 (16:10)    

la EOS 50 è stata la prima Canon a utilizzare il sistema E-TTL, quindi in teoria dovrebbe funzionare senza problemi

Davvero??? evvai che fortuna.... ho comprato il modello giusto analogico allora ahahahaa...
grazie Azetaelle!

e grazie anche a Razius!
allora faccio qualche scatto col mio rullino ilford bianco e nero! :)

grazie di cuore

ciao

avatarsenior
sent on 23 Giugno 2014 (21:43)    

Questo potrebbe interessarti...

Sulle particolarità dei protocolli Canon, le compatibilità e le funzioni disponibili.

Paolo

TTL and E-TTL and EOS film cameras.

Most film-based Canon EOS cameras support TTL flash metering. The exceptions are the latest consumer EOS film cameras and the oddball Canon EF-M. (the EF-M was a manual-focus camera that could accept EF-mount lenses but which lacked both autofocus and TTL flash circuitry as a cost-saving measure; you had to buy an optional flash unit with an external sensor, the Speedlite 200M, if you wanted to do flash photography with the EF-M) Those film-based EOS cameras with built-in flash units and TTL support rely solely on TTL for flash exposure control of those internal flash units.

Canon cameras designed prior to the Elan II/EOS 50 of 1995 don't support E-TTL. With the release of this camera Canon divided their camera bodies into two types - A and B. Type A bodies are bodies which support E-TTL, FEL and FP flash technologies. Type B bodies are bodies which do not.

With flash units it's easy - if the name of the flash unit ends with the letter X (eg: 550EX, MT-24EX) then it's an E-TTL unit. If it ends with anything else (eg: 430EZ, 480EG) then it is not.

However, there are three points of note here. First, Canon continued designing and selling type B bodies for many years after the introduction of the Elan II/EOS 50, such as the EOS 3000 and venerable EOS 5/A2, so the date you bought your camera won't determine if it's a type A or B body. Second, since Canon came up with the whole A/B naming convention in 1995, older cameras are obviously not described as being "type B" in their manuals. And third, type A simply means support for E-TTL, FEL and high speed sync - it doesn't mean that the camera necessarily supports other recent flash features such as wireless flash ratios or modelling flash.

So the upshot of all this is the following:

TTL/A-TTL and E-TTL are incompatible flash metering systems which can't be combined in any way. Some film cameras support both technologies, but you can't use them simultaneously.

All EX-series (ie: E-TTL capable) flash units also support TTL metering and automatically revert to TTL metering when used with an older type B camera body. However, no EX-series flash units support A-TTL metering.

Since virtually all EOS film cameras (all type B and nearly all type A bodies) support both TTL and A-TTL metering they can all use E-series flash units in TTL mode and EZ-series flash units in A-TTL mode. All EOS digital cameras support either E-TTL or E-TTL II, depending on when they were designed (see below).

If both the camera and flash unit support E-TTL (ie: the camera is a type A body and the flash an EX series) then they will use E-TTL unless specifically overridden (see "disabling E-TTL" below).

avatarsenior
sent on 23 Giugno 2014 (22:01)    

Pdeninis ti ringrazio infinitamente

Davvero molto utile e attinente!

Grazie

Daniele

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