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Woodchat Birds sent on April 19, 2014 (22:29) by Enrico Castellano. 6 comments, 393 views.

at 200mm, 1/1250 f/7.1, ISO 1000, hand held.




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sent on April 19, 2014 (22:51)


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Qui avevi solo due alternative:
a) supercroppavi alla morte perdendo in dettaglio-microcontrasto
b)estraevi per magia dalla giacca un extender 2x + 1.7x e lo montavi
Consigli:
per ogni occasione occorre l'ottica giusta e il f.f. in qualche maniera può anche essere svantaggioso quando il soggetto è minuscolo e lontano ... valuta di prenotare il nuovo big-tamron 150-600mm vc oppure ripiega sull'acquisto di un extender 1.7x usato ;-)
ciao, lauro

There were only two alternatives:
a) the death supercroppavi losing detail-microcontrast
b) estraevi by magic from his jacket a + 1.7x and 2x extender the montavi
Tips:
every opportunity should be taken to correct the optics and the acting in some way can also be disadvantageous when the subject is tiny and far away ... reserve currency of the new big-Tamron 150-600mm vc or folds on the purchase of a 1.7x extender used ;-)
hello, laurel

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sent on April 19, 2014 (23:38)


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elleemme ti ringrazio vivamente del consiglio mia hai letto nel pensiero.
ordinato già il nikon tc-20e 3 spero bene.
dalle recensioni vedo che montato sul 70-200 f 2.8 se la cava abbastanza bene.
comunque lauro grazie dei consigli.
saluti enricoSorriso


ElleEmme I thank you warmly of the board you read my thoughts.
already ordered the nikon tc 20e-3 should hope so.
I see from the reviews that mounted on the 70-200 f 2.8 gets along quite well.
anyway thanks laurel advice.
Regards enrico :-)

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sent on April 19, 2014 (23:50)


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o.t. forse al tuo posto avrei optato per l'1.7x per mantenere un af accettabile e poter un domani condividerlo con un 300mm f.4 . Dovresti divertirti anche nei close-up quasi macro usandolo con un extender (1,5m la distanza minima di ripresa) ;-) .

zoom a 340mm (+1,7x) vs nikkor 300mm tele
www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=6

zoom a 400mm (+2x) vs nikkor 300mm tele + 1.4x (420mm)
www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=6

Prendi questi test con le molle ma pur chiudendo a f.8 osserva il contrasto man mano che ti avvicini ai bordi della lente

qui invece la resa del zoom con 1.7x vs 2x (340mm vs 400mm)
www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=6

non male il compromesso a 340mm non trovi?

ciao, lauro

ot maybe in your place I would have opted for the 1 .7 x to maintain an acceptable af tomorrow and be able to share it with a 300mm f.4. You should have fun even in close-up macro almost using it with an extender (1.5 m, the minimum shooting distance) ;-).

zoom to 340mm (1.7 x) vs. nikkor 300mm telephoto
www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=6

zoom to 400mm (x +2) vs. nikkor 300mm + 1.4x telephoto (420mm)
www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=6

Prendi these tests with the springs but still closing at f.8 notes the contrast as you get closer to the edges of the lens

but here the performance of the zoom with 1.7x vs. 2x (340mm vs 400mm)
www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=6

not bad compromise at 340mm is not it?

hello, laurel

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sent on April 20, 2014 (1:05)


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Bella rappresentazione mi hai schiarito un pò le idee.
non credevo che il 300 f 4 si conportava cosi bene.
un mio amico in questi giorni me la proposto 1,7x di nikon,ho optato per il 2x proprio per il raddoppio della focale
io non sono un esperto ma si possono montare eventualmente tutti e due?
saluti,enrico



Beautiful representation I've cleared some ideas.
I did not think the 300 f 4 is conportava so well.
a friend of mine brought me these days 1.7 x nikon, I opted for the 2x because of the doubling of the focal
I am not an expert but you can mount possibly both?
regards, enrico


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sent on April 20, 2014 (8:56)


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o.t. Il 300mm è innanzitutoo fisso ed ottimizzato come nitidezza perchè è un'ottica dedicata alla fotografia naturalistica. Il 70-200-mm è un'ottica che ha un'altra missione , in caso di bisogno può anche essere allungata ma all'aumentare della moltiplicazione (extender) si interpongono più vetri e cala in maniera fisiologica il microcontrasto . ... ecco perchè ti consiglierei l'1.7x : è un giusto compromesso , se serve avvicinare un pelino il soggetto si interviene con un piccolo crop. Il nodo principale è scoprire per ogni sistema ottica-extender quando il vantaggio in chiave della nitidezza, è a favore dell'uso dell'extender stesso e quando è a favore del crop . Non sono da ignorare eventuali aberrazioni emergenti e di quanto rallenta l'af. Intanto fai lavorare il tuo medio tele con un extender (se puoi cambiare l'ordine opta x 1.7x) e incollalo per questo tipo di riprese ...poi, in futuro, valuterai con calma la soluzione c) in base al budget a disposizione. Soluzione c) ottiche specializzate come Tamron 150-600mm , Nikkor 300mm f.4 , Nikkor 300mm f.2,8 . Tieni però presente che il nikkor 300mm f.4 è si leggero ma manca di stabilizzazione . Il Tamron è , secondo me, l'opzione più intrigante che ti permetterebbe di non dover contare sempre su un monopiede nelle situazioni di ripresa borderline. Per facilitare il progetto c) metti sul tavolontutto il tuo corredo e identifica i pezzi che possono essere monetizzati. Uso di extender a cascata ? No, troppe lenti in gioco ...meglio usare il piedi-zoom unito ad una buona mimetizzazione del fotografo . ciao, lauro

ot The 300mm is innanzitutoo fixed and optimized as sharpness because it is a perspective dedicated to nature photography. 70-200-mm is a perspective that has another mission, in case of need can also be lengthened but with increasing multiplication (extender) interpose more glass and falls in the physiologically microcontrast. I would recommend ... this is why the 1 .7 x: is a fair compromise, if you need to approach the subject in a bit is done with a small crop. The root node is to find for each system-optic extender when the key advantage in sharpness, is in favor of the use of the extender itself and when it is in favor of the crop. Do not ignore any aberrations are emerging and it slows the f. Meanwhile, do your work with a medium telephoto extender (if you can change the order of 1 x opt.7x) and paste for this type of shooting ... then, in the future, valuterai calmly solution c) based on the budget available. Solution c) specialized optics such as Tamron 150-600mm, Nikkor 300mm f.4, Nikkor 300mm f2, 8. Bear in mind however that the nikkor 300mm f.4 it is lightweight but lacks stabilization. The Tamron is, according to me, the most intriguing option that would allow you to not have to always rely on a monopod in situations of recovery borderline. To facilitate the project c) tavolontutto put on your outfit and identifies components that can be monetized. Using cascading extender? No, too many lenses in the game ... better to use the foot-zoom combined with a good camouflage of the photographer. hello, laurel

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sent on April 20, 2014 (14:07)


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ricevuto,a breve valuterò quale dei due scegliere;il 300 f,2.8 sicuramente eccellente ma troppo costoso.

comunque il mio amico se lo vende il molt.1.7x lo compro cosi nell'immediato futuro cerco di divertirmi un pò.
grazie ancora lauro,saluti

received, in short I will assess which of the two to choose, the 300 f 2.8 definitely excellent but too expensive.

however my friend if he sells molt.1.7x I buy it in the near future so I try to have some fun.
thanks again laurel, greetings


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