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Phalacrocorax carbo in ditching...

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Phalacrocorax carbo in ditching sent on March 17, 2014 (14:25) by Sergiocuk. 7 comments, 470 views.

con Nikon TC-17E II, 1/1250 f/10.0, ISO 1000, hand held.

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sent on March 17, 2014 (17:59)


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... e in questi casi si vorrebbe avere un super zoom dato che non si ha il tempo per togliere il crop interno Confuso Buoni il momento semi-congelato e i colori. Emerge del rumore digitale e il taglio della coda oltre al poco spazio sotto sono, per me, penalizzanti . (imho) . ciao, lauro

And ... in these cases you would want to have a super zoom as you do not have the time to remove the crop inside :-/ Good time semi-frozen and colors. Emerge Digital Noise and tail docking in addition to the space below are just for me, penalizing. (IMHO). hello, laurel

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sent on March 17, 2014 (20:10)


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Grazie Lauro per il passaggio e per il commento. In effetti ho diversi problemi con il rumore ma se blocco gli iso i tempi ovviamente salgono ed il micromosso in agguato non mi lascia scampo. Per quanto riguarda il taglio, hai perfettamente ragione, a mia discolpa posso dire soltanto che non è voluto......
Ciao Sergio

Lauro Thanks for passing and for the comment. In fact I have several problems with noise but if the iso block times obviously go up and shake-lurking not let me escape. As for the cut, you're absolutely right, in my defense I can only say that it is not wanted ......
Hello Sergio

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sent on March 17, 2014 (21:20)


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0.t. per il tuo micromosso potresti vagliare in futuro il big.tamron o il 300mm f.2,8 vr . Per il rumore lo trovo anomalo per una d7100 , potrebbe essere stato esaltato da una tua schiarita i post-produzione . (imho) . ciao, lauro

0.t. shake-examine you for your future in the big.tamron or 300mm f2, 8 vr. For the noise I find it strange for a D7100, it may have been enhanced by a lightened your post-production. (IMHO). hello, laurel

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sent on March 18, 2014 (9:28)


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Be si certamente il 300mm f.2.8 vr potrebbe essere di aiuto ma per me non è ancora giustificabile la spesa. Il big.tamron per nikon deve essere ancora commercializzato. Preferisco per il momento controllare le emozioni e cercare compromessi. Ciao Sergio

Well you certainly f.2.8 300mm vr might be of help, but for me it is still justifiable expenditure. The big.tamron for nikon has yet to be commercialized. I prefer for the moment to control emotions and to compromise. Hello Sergio

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sent on March 18, 2014 (9:42)


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Ciao Sergio ... vedo che sei passato al 300 f/4 ... un obiettivo che, appena ci prenderai la mano, ti darà delle belle soddisfazioni.

Per quanto riguarda il rumore concordo con Lauro, non è normale che la D7100 ti restituisca una foto così rumorosa ... qualche volta dobbiamo fare un rendez-vous sulle impostazioni, magari c'è qualcosa che è impostato in modo strano ...

Ad ogni buon conto la soluzione migliore è sempre la stessa, devi cercare di avvicinarti ai soggetti il più possibile. Più croppi in pp e più il rumore risulta evidente. Prendi ad esempio la mia foto del beccaccino, ho scattato a 6400 ISO ed il soggetto era in ombra (altro elemento che accentua il rumore) ... però come vedi il rumore non è eccessivo perché il soggetto era a 3 metri ... praticamente non ho croppato nulla (se avessi avuto bisogno di croppare la foto sarebbe stata da buttare).

Fai tante prove, piano piano trovi il giusto equilibrio. Sinceramente non sono d'accordo con Lauro sul passare ad obiettivi superiori ... ovvio che con il 300 f/2.8 le foto vengono più belle, ma un poco più belle ... non ti verranno mai 4500 Euro più belle MrGreenMrGreenMrGreen

Hello Sergio ... I see that you went to the 300 f / 4 ... a goal that, as soon as you take my hand we will give you a lot of satisfaction.

As for the noise I agree with Lauro, it is normal that the D7100 will return a photo so loud ... sometimes we have to make a rendez-vous on the settings, maybe there is something that is set in a strange way ...

In any case the best solution is always the same, you have to try to get close to the subject as possible. More and more Croppi pp noise is evident. Take for example my photo of the snipe, I shot at 6400 ISO and the subject was in shadow (another element that accentuates the noise) ... but as you see, the noise is not excessive because the subject was 3 meters pr ...aticamente I have not cropped anything (if I needed to crop the photo would be thrown away).

Make many trials, slowly find the right balance. I honestly do not agree with Lauro pass on to higher goals ... obvious that with the 300 f/2.8 photos are the most beautiful, but a little more beautiful ... do not you will never be more beautiful Euro 4500:-D: -D:-D

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sent on March 18, 2014 (13:23)


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o.t. è scontato, Felice, che il nikkor 300mm è un ottimo investimento ma , a volte, le ottiche stabilizzate riducono le problematiche legate al micromosso verticale ... alla fine sono scelte personali , l'importante è affiatarsi con l'ottica ed enfatizzare la tecnica di scattoCool . (imho) . ciao, lauro

ot is granted, Happy, that the nikkor 300mm is an excellent investment but, at times, the optical stabilized reduce the problems related to the shake-vertical ... in the end are personal choices, it is important to get on well with the perspective and emphasize the 8-) shooting technique. (IMHO). hello, laurel

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sent on March 18, 2014 (15:08)


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Ciao Felice. Ebbene si, sono passato da circa 4 giorni al 300 f/4 ma sono ancora distante dall'utilizzarlo come riesci a fare tu e altre persone in questo ottimo forum.

Per quanto riguarda il rendez-vous sono sempre a disposizione , ma credo cmq che il grosso del problema sia rappresentato dalla distanza eccessiva. Mi sono reso conto che 30-35 metri possono essere tanti per un cormorano, ed infiniti per un qualsiasi passeraceo. Triste

Lauro sono d'accordo con te che le stabilizzate possono risolvere alcuni problemi, ma anche con Felice quando dice che le ottiche buone..... e stabilizzate, come dire, ne creano altri.:-P

Grazie per il passaggio e le considerazioni




Hello Happy. Yes, I've gone from about 4 days to 300 f / 4, but are still far from using it as you can make you and other people in this great forum.

Regarding the rendezvous are always available, but I believe cmq that the bulk of the problem is represented by the excessive distance. I realized that 30-35 meters can be many for a cormorant, and infinite for any passerine. :-(

Lauro I agree with you that the stabilized can solve some problems, but also with Happy when he says that the optics good ..... and stabilized, as it were, create others. :-P

Thanks for the ride and considerations




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