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Roby sent on February 04, 2014 (17:25) by Mellon. 6 comments, 991 views.

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sent on February 05, 2014 (16:29)


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I ritratti nella luce naturale non sono mai semplici. Non sono molto ferrata nel genere, ma in base a quel poco che so e per mio gusto, ti dico che l'ombra del naso che copre parzialmente il viso a destra è fastidiosa. Avresti dovuto contrastarla con un pannello riflettente, sarebbe andato bene anche l'oscurante dei vetri dell'auto, ti avrebbe aiutato ad ammorbidire le ombre ed a illuminare anche la parte destra del viso (per chi guarda).
L'immagine non mi sembra molto nitida sul viso, credo che la messa a fuoco ti sia caduta sulle braccia anzichè sugli occhi (ma non ne sono sicura).
La posa non mi fa impazzire, avrei evitato di avere entrambe le mani a coprire parzialmente il viso, e potendo scegliere avrei fatto togliere la sua mano sinistra (a destra per chi guarda).
Le luci sul viso sono abbastanza alte, ma credo che tu non abbia applicato molta PP allo scatto, quindi sicuramente migliorabile.
Al momento non mi viene in mente altro, magari qualcuno più esperto di me nei ritratti ti potrà dare qualche altra indicazione o consiglio.;-)
Ciao
Barbara

The portraits in natural light are never simple. I'm not really literate in the genre, but based on what little I know and for my taste, I tell you that the shadow of the nose that partially covers the face on the right is annoying. You should counter it with a reflector, it would also fitted the blinds of the windows of the car, you would have helped to soften shadows and illuminate the right side of the face (for the viewer).
The image does not seem very clear on the face, I think the focus will fall on both arms instead of on the eyes (but I'm not sure).
The pose I'm not crazy, I would have avoided having both hands to cover part of the face, and given a choice I would take his left hand (right for the viewer).
The lights on the face are quite high, but I think that you have not applied a lot of PP to shoot,then definitely improved.
At the moment I can not think of anything else, maybe someone more experienced than me in the pictures you can give some other indication or advice. ;-)
Hello
Barbara

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sent on February 06, 2014 (13:08)


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Anche secondo me la posa è discutibile, ma a parte qualche luce un pò alta, il vero "dramma" qui sono gli incomprensibili tagli, ai gomiti e alla sommità del capo (per la serie: o li includi o non li includi).
Per mio gusto avrei decentrato ulteriormente sulla dx, tagliando in parte la spalla invece, lasciando la testa nel terzo alto, ma avrei anche scelto come sfondo il punto libero dagli alberelli.

Also I think the pose is debatable, but apart from a few light a little high, the real "drama" here are the incomprehensible cuts, elbows and top of the head (for the series: either include or do not include them).
For my taste I would have decentralized further on the right, cutting off part of the shoulder instead, leaving the head in the top third, but I would also chosen as the background the empty spot by the trees.

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sent on February 06, 2014 (14:57)


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Ciao Veleno e Barbara!
Grazie per i suggerimenti. Avete puntualizzato ciò su cui non ero convinto: posa/composizione e PP.
Per quanto riguarda la prima ho fatto un ritaglio in secondo tempo per evitare una panchina che non mi piaceva ma credo di aver peggiorato le cose Confuso
Anche sulla PP mi sa che ha sto punto ho fatto dei casini. La volevo leggermente più soft ma ho perso dettaglio. Le ombre ho provato ad aprirle per diminuire il contrasto mentre le luci...ops...le ho addirittura alzate! Sorry
So che la foto di base forse non è perfetta però posso chiedervi quale sia la composizione migliore partendo da questo scatto? Scusate la scocciatura...
(vi metto l'originale così come uscito dalla macchina)





Hello Poison and Barbara!
Thanks for the tips. Have you pointed out that I was not convinced that pose / composition and PP.
Regarding the first I made a cutout in the second half to avoid a bench that I did not like but I think I made things worse :-/
Also on the PP I know that I'm point I did get in trouble. I wanted a little softer but I lost detail. The shadows I tried to open them to decrease the contrast as the lights ... oops ... I even get up! :-|
I know the basic photo may not be perfect but may I ask what is the best composition starting from this shot? Sorry for the hassle ...
(I put the original as it came out of the machine)




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sent on February 06, 2014 (15:18)


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Sinceramente, dopo aver corretto le pendenze della colonna, mi piace molto di più la versione ambientata rispetto al ritaglio che avevi fatto. Se proprio non ti piace la panchina, rifila dietro tagliando un po' la spalla e per mantenere le proporzioni tagli sopra la testa (dovresti avere ancora margine senza andare a toccare neppure un capello;-)).
Se ti rimane qualche foglia degli alberi isolata dalle altre, magari fai un passaggio di clone.
Ulteriore consiglio: da uno scatto verticale è meglio non croppare fino a farlo diventare orizzontale, perdi ulteriore dettaglio e nitidezza. Una cosa è ricavare un taglio quadrato (senza ulteriore crop o avvicinamento) ma farlo diventare nuovamente orizzontale non ha senso... dovevi pensarci in fase di scatto.;-)

Honestly, after correcting the gradients of the column, I really like your version more than the set cut-out that you had done. If you do not like the bench, trim cutting back a little 'shoulder and to maintain the aspect ratio cuts over your head (you should still have the edge without going to touch even a hair ;-).)
If you have left a few leaves of trees isolated from the others, maybe make a transition to clone.
Further advice: from a vertical shot is best not to crop until it becomes horizontal, you lose further detail and sharpness. One thing is get a square cut (without further crop or approach), but it becomes horizontal again does not make sense ... you had to think about it during shooting. ;-)

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sent on February 06, 2014 (15:23)


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Ok grazie mille! farò tesoro ;-)
Alla prossima!

Ok thanks a lot! I will treasure ;-)
Until next time!

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sent on February 06, 2014 (20:34)


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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, ma ci avevi fatto lo scherzo allora! MrGreen

La versione "integrale" va già meglio,per quanto, nella globalità non trovo comunque che sia una foto da urlo...

In linea di massima concordo con Barbara: per la panchina, o cloni, se riesci, o tagli come ti è stato detto.
Per il formato ridotto, puoi senza dubbio optare per un 1:1 così da includere pienamente testa e gomiti conservando una buona compo evitando quei tagli selvaggi comparsi nella tua prima versione.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, but we had done the trick then! :-D

The version of "integral" should be better already, as in the whole I do not find, however, that it is a photo from scream ...

In principle I agree with Barbara on the bench, or clones, if you can, or cut as you've been told.
For the small size, you can certainly opt for a 1:1 so as to include the full head and elbows keeping a good compo avoiding those savage cuts appeared in your first version.


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