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| sent on August 26, 2022 (13:48) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
it is a pyro pyro boschereccio.
great detail.
congratulations è un piro piro boschereccio.
ottimo dettaglio.
complimenti |
| sent on August 26, 2022 (22:55) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Fabyx
They are very similar and in my opinion the white eye circle, which the Piro Piro Boschereccio does not have, makes me lean towards the Fighter, but I can be wrong.
Thanks for the comment.
Carlo Fabyx
Sono molto simili e secondo me il cerchio oculare bianco, che il Piro Piro Boschereccio non ha, mi fa' propendere per il Combattente, ma posso sbagliarmi.
Grazie del commento.
Carlo |
| sent on September 04, 2022 (17:29) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
congratulations, beautiful shot, and a good definition complimenti,bellissimo scatto,e una buona definizione |
| sent on September 05, 2022 (8:54) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
beautiful and well detailed photo, for the white eyebrow and the dark bar between eye and beak I also think I am a pyro pyro bella e ben dettagliata foto, per il sopracciglio bianco e la barra scura fra occhio e becco penso anche io sia un piro piro |
| sent on September 05, 2022 (10:11) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
“ Regolus “ „ for the white eyebrow and the dark bar between eye and beak I also think I am a pyro „
Thanks for the clarification,
The book 'All the birds of Europe' to which I refer deceives me ???
Because between the female Fighter in wedding dress (Pag. 167) and the Piro Piro Boschereccio (Pag. 182) there are differences both with the upper feathers and in the Fighter are flakes while for the Piro Piro they are frosted, in the white ocular circle that the Piro Piro does not have, but in the Fighter there is no white eyebrow.
What about ... it is true that the species are so similar that the distinction is often difficult... so I adapt to your comment ...
Thanks
Carlo
" Regolus" " per il sopracciglio bianco e la barra scura fra occhio e becco penso anche io sia un piro piro"
Grazie della precisazione,
Il libro 'Tutti gli uccelli d'Europa' a cui faccio riferimento mi trae in inganno ???
Perche' tra il Combattente femmina in abito nuziale (Pag. 167) e il Piro Piro Boschereccio (Pag. 182) ci sono differenze sia con le piume superiori che nel Combattente sono a scaglie mentre per il Piro Piro sono brinate, nel cerchio oculare bianco che il Piro Piro non ha, pero' nel Combattente non c'e' il sopracciglio bianco.
Che dire ... vero e' che le specie sono talmente simili che la distinzione spesso e' difficile... quindi mi adeguo al vostro commento ...
Grazie
Carlo
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| sent on September 05, 2022 (12:39) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I don't know that particular book, but sometimes the illustrations, made precisely to mark certain characteristics, I can deceive a little; also because by force of things, they could never in a book illustrate all the infinite variations and shades of color that vary gradually throughout the year; for example, now many birds no longer have the nuptial livery but maybe they do not yet have the winter one completely.
Sometimes even the web comes to the aid with the many photos present, especially if they come from naturalistic sites.
And anyway sometimes even the real experts are a bit 'in trouble ;-)
Non conosco quel libro in particolare, ma a volte le illustrazioni, fatte proprio per marcare certe caratteristiche, posso ingannare un po'; anche perchè per forza di cose, non potrebbero mai in un libro illustrare tutte le infinite varianti e sfumature di colore che variano gradualmente durante tutto l'anno; per esempio adesso molti uccelli non hanno più la livrea nuziale ma magari non hanno ancora completamente quella invernale.
A volte anche il web viene in aiuto con le numerosissime foto presenti, soprattutto se provengono da siti naturalistici.
E comunque a volte anche i veri esperti sono un po' in difficoltà 
www.inaturalist.org/taxa/339593-Calidris-pugnax/browse_photos
www.inaturalist.org/taxa/3888-Tringa-glareola/browse_photos
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