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| sent on November 12, 2012 (15:47) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I think most female finch and other opinions but expect most famous ;-) ;-) mi pare più fringuello e femmina ma aspettiamo altri pareri più illustri |
| sent on November 12, 2012 (15:55) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
From the beginning I had seen a female Brambling ossorvando better but then I arose a doubt subtraction can be a hybrid male chaffinch? Hybridize in nature?
Thank you all. Da subito l'avevo considerata una femmina di peppola ma poi ossorvando meglio mi è sorto un dubbio: portebbe essere un ibrido maschio con il fringuello? Si ibridano anche in natura?
Grazie a tutti. |
| sent on November 12, 2012 (17:29) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
For mè is a hybrid female Brambling x finch or vice versa, over the years I have been a breeder of finches and this was a hybrid m is realized in my voliere.Di these hybrids it can also be found in nature as, (rarer though) greenfinch and goldfinch x altri.Alle exhibitions birds are no longer displayable since they are both part of the same famiglia.Scusate if they are no longer just photography. Per mè è un ibrido femmina di peppola x fringuello o viceversa,negli anni passati sono stato un ibridatore di fringillidi e questo è stato un ibrido da mè realizzato nelle mie voliere.Di questi ibridi se ne possono trovare anche in natura come,(più rari però)cardellino x verdone e altri.Alle mostre ornitologiche non sono più esponibili in quanto fanno entrambi parte della stessa famiglia.Scusate se sono uscito dall'ambito fotografico. |
| sent on November 12, 2012 (17:55) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Quoto Mario wow! But the picture was taken in the wild or captivity?? Quoto Mario  Ma la foto è stata fatta in natura o cattività??? |
| sent on November 12, 2012 (18:55) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I would have said finch female, but Mario seems to me that he's absolutely right. io avrei detto fringuello femmina, ma Mario mi sembra che abbia proprio ragione. |
| sent on November 12, 2012 (21:15) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
It is a female Chaffinch.
Hello È un Fringuello femmina.
Ciao |
| sent on November 12, 2012 (21:47) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I insist that it is not a female finch but but rather a hybrid of Brambling x finch, you can tell from that rather than be white wing bar as usual in finches is typical brownish bramblings. Insisto nel dire che non si tratta di una femmina di fringuello ma bensi un ibrido di peppola x fringuello,lo si può capire dalla barra alare che anziche essere bianca come di consuetudine nei fringuelli è marroncina tipico delle peppole. |
| sent on November 12, 2012 (22:47) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
In my female finch not because it would not be so dark on the belly and rump would be completely green while here looks green at the top and then goes blank as in brambling also not sabbe orange bars on the wing.
If it were female Brambling back here which is uniformly brown, dark brown and scaly sabebbe would be white on lower belly up almost to his chest is not it?
This made me think of a hybrid.
The picture was taken absolutely in nature, it was with a mixed group of finches and peppole.
Thank you again.
Dario Secondo me fringuello femmina no perchè non sarebbe cosi scura sul ventre e il groppone sarebbe completamente verde mentre qui sembra verde in alto per poi diventare bianco come nella peppola inoltre non sabbe arancione sulle barre alari.
Se fosse femmina di peppola la schiena, che qui è marrone uniforme, sabebbe a scaglie bruno scuro e sarebbe bianco il bassoventre fino quasi al petto o sbaglio?
Questo mi ha fatto pensare a un ibrido.
La foto è stata fatta assolutamente in natura, era con un gruppo misto di fringuelli e peppole.
Grazie ancora.
Dario |
| sent on November 13, 2012 (13:38) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
For me it was indeed a hybrid Chaffinch Brambling x .... characteristics of the two species appear all in this subject ...
Hello Simone Secondo me si tratta proprio di un ibrido Fringuello x Peppola....le caratteristiche delle due specie compaiono tutte in questo soggetto...
Ciao Simone |
| sent on April 16, 2013 (22:12) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Coverts orange, but also white: irbido! Copritrici arancio, ma anche bianche: irbido! |
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