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industrial archeology sent on November 02, 2012 (23:48) by Erica. 20 comments, 1033 views.

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Fabbrica ormai in disuso nata nel 1902 per trasformare la barite, minerale di cui era ricca la Valsassina,in sali di bario. Chiusa nel 1998. Importantissimo resto industriale nel territorio lecchese.

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Erica

sent on November 02, 2012 (23:59)

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Ciao a tutti. Vorrei che qualcuno mi spiegasse un paio di cose.... ;-)

- Perchè nei 4 angoli mi si sono formate quelle piccole ombre?
- In pochissimi e semplici passaggi, come posso togliere la luce eccessiva sulle nuvole senza toccare la costruzione?
Ringrazio infinitivamente!! :-P

ciao erica

Hello to all. I wish someone would explain a few things .... ;-)
- Why in the 4 corners I have formed the small shadows?
- In a few simple steps, how can I remove the excessive light on the clouds without touching the building?
Thank you infinitely! :-P hello heather

Massibi

sent on November 03, 2012 (0:39)

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Ciao Erica,

gli angoli sembrerebbero dovuti alla vignettatura causata da un paraluce o da un filtro ...

Per le nuvole, dal jpg non poi fare molto, i bianchi sono bruciati e non riesci a migliorarli. Però se nel raw ci sono i dettagli puoi provare partendo da quello. Apri il file raw in PS da camera raw. Vai sul tab dei canali:

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Trascina il canale RGB sull'icona come nell'immagine sotto:

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In questo modo crei una maschera di luminosità (le aree più luminose saranno selezionate sulla foto). Salvala cliccando sull'icona indicata sotto:

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Una volta salvata troverai un nuovo canale chiamato Alpha 1. Ora la selezione è troppo ampia e comprende anche parte del cielo e della costruzione. Per ridurla (andando a selezionare solo le zone più chiare) devi premere contemporaneamente i tasti SHIFT + CTRL + ALT e cliccare sull'icona all'interno del canale Alpha 1 (per selezionare solo le zone più chiare delle nuvole ripeti questo passo almeno 3 volte):

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A questo punto salva la nuova selezione come hai fatto sopra (ti crea il canale Alpha 2)
Torna sui layer (la selezione è ancora attiva) e aggiungi un livello di regolazione 'Curve' cliccando sull'icona per la creazione di un nuovo livello di regolazione:

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A questo punto non ti resta che modificare la curva finchè ottieni il risultato desiderato Sorriso

spero di non averti incasinata troppo ! ciao ;-)

massi

Hello Erica,

the corners would appear due to vignetting caused by a hood or by a filter ...

For the clouds, then the jpg does not do much, whites are burnt and you can not improve it. But if there are details in the raw you can try starting with that. Open the raw file in PS camera raw. Go to the tab of the channels:

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Drag the RGB channel icon as the image below:

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In this way you create a mask of brightness (brighter areas will be selected on the picture). Save it by clicking on the icon shown below:

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Once saved you will find a new channel called Alpha 1. Now the selection is tropsomewhat broad and includes part of the sky and the building. To reduce it (by choosing only the lightest areas) must simultaneously press the SHIFT + CTRL + ALT and click on the channel Alpha 1 (to select only the lightest areas of the clouds Repeat this step at least 3 times ):

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At this point, save the new selection as you did above (you create the channel Alpha 2)
Back on the layer (the selection is still active) and add an adjustment layer 'Curve 'by clicking on the icon to create a new adjustment layer:

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At this point you just have to change the curve until you get the desired result :-)

I hope that I have not messed up too! hello ;-)
rocks

Erica

sent on November 03, 2012 (0:48)

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Massibi!! Non ho parole per la disponibilità e gentilezza...veramente, sono commossa Sorry

!
Ho capito, è stato il paraluce Confuso

avevo le mani fredde,lo avvitavo male...fino a che l'ho tolto.
Tutti gli esempi che mi hai messo me li studio..però prima mi sa che devo mettere camera raw nel mio cs5 perchè ne sono sprovvista Eeeek!!!

! Dopodichè seguirò passo dopo passo e anche se sono negata Eeeek!!!

voglio imparare.
Ti ringrazio ancora , un caro saluto.....erica Sorriso

Massibi! I have no words for the availability and kindness ... really, I am touched :-|!
I understand, was the hood: fconfuso: my hands were cold, the avvitavo bad ... until I took it off.
All the examples I've put me study them .. but first I guess I have to put in my camera raw cs5 because I am sprovvistawow! Then follow step by step and even if they are denied wow!: Fconfuso: I want to learn.
Thanks again, a warm greeting heather ..... :-)

Guidoalpino

sent on November 03, 2012 (15:09)

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Calolzio?
" prima mi sa che devo mettere camera raw nel mio cs5 perchè ne sono sprovvista"
Impossibile, camera raw è parte integrante di PS. Se apri un file raw con PS, camera raw si apre automaticamente. Alla peggio, ripeti l'installazione.
Ciao
Guido

Calolzio?

“ before I know that I have to put in my camera raw cs5 because I am surprise „

Impossible, Camera Raw is an integral part of PS. If you open a raw file in PS, Camera Raw opens automatically. At worst, repeat the installation.
Hello
Guido

Erica

sent on November 03, 2012 (18:35)

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Ciao Guido...hai indovinato. Sorriso

Per quanto riguarda raw, t'assicuro che nn è installato sul mio cs5 altrimenti avrei iniziato a scattare in raw per poter imparare. Quelle che ho in raw, non le apro e mi appare la scritta NEF.
Vuoi che nn l'abbia visto io? Possibile Eeeek!!!

Dove lo cerco?
ciao e grazie erica

Hello Guido ... you guessed it. :-) As for Raw, I assure you that nn is installed on my cs5 otherwise I would have started to shoot in raw to learn. Those in my raw, not open and I get the message NEF.
Would you like nn I've seen? Possibilewow! Wow! Where do I look for?
hello and thank you erica

Guidoalpino

sent on November 03, 2012 (19:17)

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Per prima cosa, vai alla scheda AIUTO di PS --> Info sui plugin ... e vedi se nella lista c'è Camera raw
In relazione all'esito della verifica, poi vediamo il seguito.

First, go to the HELP PS -> Info on the plugin ... in the list and see if there is room Raw
In relation to the outcome of the verification, then we see the following.

Erica

sent on November 03, 2012 (19:55)

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ok...ci sono.... Sorriso

ok ... there are .... :-)

Guidoalpino

sent on November 03, 2012 (20:30)

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Cioè, Camera raw è nella lista? Se sì, cliccaci sopra per vedere la versione.

That is, Camera Raw is on the list? If yes, click on it to see the version.

Erica

sent on November 03, 2012 (20:38)

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No Guido...non c'è

Guido No ... no

Guidoalpino

sent on November 03, 2012 (20:55)

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Allora direi di rifare l'installazione di PS, non ricordo se si può scegliere quali componenti installare, nel caso controlla che sia selezionato Camera raw.

So I would say to redo the installation of PS, I do not remember if you can choose which components to install, if control is selected Camera Raw.

Erica

sent on November 03, 2012 (21:04)

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Ok grazie....sei stato gentilissimo.
Buona domenica!! Sorriso

erica

Ok thanks .... you have been very kind.
Have a good Sunday! :-) Heather

Guidoalpino

sent on November 03, 2012 (21:10)

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Prego ... spero che così si risolva il problema.
Buona domenica anche a te. Ciao

Please ... I hope it will solve the problem.
Good Sunday to you. Hello

Tony

sent on November 04, 2012 (12:09)

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anche io erica sono alle prime armi e fatto ci tutto per migliorarimi....quindi mi son permesso di provare un po con la tua foto ed effettivamente per le nuvole è impossibile perchè sono bruciate...sono riuscito solo in questo.ho anche raddrizzato il tutto perchè mi sembrava piuttosto storta...ciao ciao

I also heather are a beginner and made us all to migliorarimi .... so I took the liberty to try a little with your photo and indeed for the clouds is impossible because they are burned ... I could only questo.ho also straightened the whole thing because it seemed rather crooked ... hello hello

Guidoalpino

sent on November 04, 2012 (12:47)

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In questa versione vedo un evidente alone blu attorno alla parte superiore della ciminiera.
E' chiaro che partendo da un jpg le nuvole bruciate non sono recuperabili, forse (ma non è detto, e in questo caso direi di no) possono esserlo partendo dal raw.
Per questo scatto, la soluzione più semplice mi sembra quella di passare a un taglio verticale, escludendo almeno in parte le nuvole bruciate di sx.

In this version I see a clear blue halo around the upper part of the chimney.
It 'clear that from a jpg burned the clouds are not recoverable, perhaps (but not necessarily, and in this case I would say no) may be starting from the raw.
For this shot, the easiest solution seems to me to switch to a vertical cut, excluding at least in part the clouds burned on left.

Erica

sent on November 04, 2012 (20:34)

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@ Tony...grazie...vuol dire che salverò la tua che è decisamente meglio. :-P

Mi sono accorta che era storta ma ormai l'avevo postata e avevano commentato quindi non l'ho cambiata.
Guido....concordo con il taglio verticale... Sorriso

ciao e grazie!

@ Tony ... thanks ... means that it will save your which is much better. :-P I realized that was wrong but now I had posted and had commented so I have not changed.
Guido .... I agree with the vertical cut ... :-)
hello and thank you!

Tony

sent on November 04, 2012 (20:41)

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eh figurati erica ho solo provato a far qualcosina Sorriso

sicuramente qualcuno con più dimestichezza ed esperienza avrebbe fatto meglio..!!

ciao ciao

eh heather figured I just tried to make a little bit :-) sure someone with more familiarity and experience would have done better ..!

hello hello

user22061

sent on March 07, 2013 (19:32)

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A parte i problemi tecnici, io l'avrei fotografata in diagonale ..

Apart from the technical problems, I would have photographed diagonally ..

Carlo Simari

sent on March 22, 2015 (13:46)

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La foto in se, visto il livello qualitativo delle altre, non è che sia particolarmente stimolante e credo che tu lo sappia già, però sei l'unica che ho incontrato fin ora ad aver postato "archeologia industriale" e questo mi fa sentire vicino!

Anche per me gli angoli sono scuriti dal paraluce!

PS: ti ringrazio di avermi inserito tra le tue amicizie ma non aspettarti altre follie come la pietra per un po'! ;-)

The photo itself, given the quality of the other, is not that it is particularly challenging and I think you already know, but you're the only one I've met so far to have posted "industrial archeology" and this makes me feel close!

For me the corners are darkened by the lens hood!

PS: I thank you for having me included among your friends but do not expect other follies as the stone for a while '! ;-)

Erica

sent on March 22, 2015 (16:59)

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Ciao Carlo, la foto non è stimolante, né misteriosa né accattivante come l'avevo in mente. Fa proprio schifo ma il posto meritava assai... MrGreen

un saluto
erica

Hello Carlo, the picture is not stimulating nor mysterious nor captivating as I had in mind. Really sucks but the place deserved much ...:-D
a greeting
heather

Carlo Simari

sent on March 22, 2015 (18:41)

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Adesso poi!...no fa schifo! Non é alla tua portata, le tue foto sono tutte interessanti oltre che ben eseguite, questa non ti rende merito!

Now then! ... No crap! It is not within your reach, your photos are interesting not only performed well, this does not make you about!

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