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sent on July 22, 2012 (22:36)


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Una bella foto d'effetto, luce ben gestita.

A nice photo of effect, light well-managed.

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sent on July 22, 2012 (22:50)


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Grazie Litewolf!
Pensa che questa foto l'ho elaborata direttamente dalla fotocamera e poi passata in LR per aggiungere un po' di saturazione e ridurre il rumore, perchè camera raw (vai a capire perchè!) mi rende tutti le mie foto più scure rispetto a quello che mi appaiono sul display.
Questa è una foto scattata un paio di minuti prima ed elaborata con PS:



I dati di scatto sono uguali, anzì, in questa il tempo è di 1/640, ma l'immagine è molto più scura.
E' come se camera raw e i miei file NEF non siano del tutto compatibili.
Qualcun altro ha avuto il mio stesso problema?


Thanks Litewolf!
Found this picture I made directly from the camera and then moved on in LR to add a little 'saturation and noise reduction, because camera raw (go figure why!) Makes me all my pictures darker than that I appear on the display.
This is a photo taken a few minutes before and processed with PS:



Shooting data are the same, even in this time is 1/640, but the image is much darker.
It 's like camera raw and my NEF files are not fully compatible.
Has anyone else had the same problem?

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sent on July 22, 2012 (22:56)


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bellissima la luce riflessa,
complimenti!

beautiful reflected light,
congratulations!

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sent on July 22, 2012 (22:58)


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Personalmente mi piace molto di più la seconda versione,la prima la vedo troppo satura al punto da renderla quasi irreale, mentr la seconda Bhe... Complimenti é davvero molto molto bella, complimenti!

Personally, I like a lot more the second version, the first I see too saturated to the point of making it almost unreal, the second mentr Well ... Congratulations is really very beautiful, congratulations!

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sent on July 22, 2012 (23:02)


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Grazie Maxfuji! ;-)
Mumù, credimi, lo spettacolo del tramonto di ieri sera era molto più vicino alla prima versione della foto che non alla seconda.
Ero letteralmente estasiata!
Grazie del passaggio e dell'apprezzamento ;-)


Thanks Maxfuji! ;-)
Mumu, believe me, the spectacle of the sunset last night was much closer to the first version of the photo not the second.
I was literally ecstatic!
Thanks for the ride and appreciation ;-)

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sent on July 22, 2012 (23:04)


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Bhe allora, beata te che ti sei goduto un così bel tramonto!!! Nn vale sei una " privilegiata" ahahahahah saluti alla prossima

Well then, lucky you that you have enjoyed such a beautiful sunset! Nn that you are a "privileged" ahahahahah greetings to the next

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sent on July 22, 2012 (23:09)


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Mi sono appollaiata ( è proprio il caso di dirlo!!) su quei sassi dalle 18,30 e ho aspettato fiduciosa.MrGreen


I perched (it's appropriate to say!) Of those rocks from 18.30 and waited confidently. :-D

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sent on July 22, 2012 (23:33)


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Ma questo è il lago di Varese? se si in che zona? Anche io sabato sera ho fatto il tramonto li..e anche paolo555 mi sa MrGreenMrGreen
Venendo allo scatto, preferisco il secondo postato

But this is the lake of Varese? if you are in that area? Also I Saturday night I did the sunset them .. and also paolo555 me know:-D:-D
Coming to shoot, I prefer the second posted

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sent on July 22, 2012 (23:37)


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Sì,lago di Varese, esattamente Cazzago Brabbia, Paolo mi ha raggiunta appena ha visto i rossi che si stavano creando nel cielo ;-)
Non ti abbiamo visto però, non eri a Cazzago?
la prox volta fai un fischio MrGreen

Yes, Lake Varese, exactly Cazzago Brabbia, Paul reached me as soon as he saw the red were being created in the sky ;-)
We have not seen, however, were not in Cazzago?
the prox time you do a whistle:-D

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sent on July 22, 2012 (23:40)


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No ero a Gavirate questa volta.
A cazzago brabbia effettivamente non ci sono mai andato a scattare, devo rimediare!

No I was Gavirate this time.
A cazzago Brabbia actually I've never gone to shoot, I have to fix it!

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sent on July 22, 2012 (23:42)


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Allora da Gavirate tu sei riuscito a fotografare quei cumulinembi minacciosi! dal porticciolo di Cazzago non si vedevano

Then from Gavirate you are able to photograph those cumulinembi threatening! from the port of Cazzago not seen

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sent on July 22, 2012 (23:43)


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Tra qualche minuto posto la foto ;-)

In a few minutes place the photo ;-)

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sent on July 23, 2012 (7:18)


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La compo mi piace
La saturazione e' innaturale l'osi nota molto dalle nuvole grigie che dovrebbero riflettere il loro colore e creare uno specchio come nel originale
I massi in primo piano sono troppo scuri contrastati

P.S rivedrei anche il giallo intenso e il viola delle nuvole sono colori che se ci fossero realmente tra di loro ne creerebbero degli altri
Qui invece si nota la creazioni di essi specie per la luce e condizione


I like the composition
Saturation and 'unnatural dare much notice from gray clouds that would reflect their color and create a mirror as in the original
The rocks in the foreground are too dark contrasting

PS rivedrei also bright yellow and purple clouds are colors that if there were really together it would create other
But here you can see the creations of these species for light and condition

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sent on July 23, 2012 (8:12)


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A mio parere una via di mezzo tra la prima e la seconda foto sarebbe stato il non plus ultra... Effettivamente la prima è di grande impatto (Effetto Wow) ma troppo innaturale.

Ciao e complimenti !!

Claudio ;-)

In my opinion, a middle way between the first and the second photo would be the ultimate ... Indeed, the first is of great impact (Wow Effect) but too unnatural.

Hello and congratulations!

Claudio ;-)

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sent on July 23, 2012 (8:27)


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La prima è troppo innaturale anche per me e vedo qualcosa di stran anche nei massi in pp

The first is too unnatural for me and I see something stran even in rocks in pp

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sent on July 23, 2012 (8:57)


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Grazie Integra della tua analisi, mi piacciono moltissimo le tue foto e quindi seguirò con particolare attenzione i tuoi consigli.
Concordo che ho calcato un po' troppo la mano con la saturazione ora che guardo la foto da un altro monitor ( da quello del mio portatile non mi sembravano così accesi i colori Sorry), però, come ho detto sopra, il tramonto aveva dei colori e i riflessi così brillanti sul lago più vicini a questa versione che alla seconda che ho postato nel messaggio.
Quando scrivi " La saturazione e' innaturale l'osi nota molto dalle nuvole grigie che dovrebbero riflettere il loro colore e creare uno specchio come nel originale " , non capisco la storia delle nuvole grigie, si vedono riflesse sull'acqua: vicino ai sassi il corpo nuvoloso più grande, e in vari punti nella zona arancione.
Per il viola, hai ragione tu, ieri sera dal mio monitor mi appariva solo una zona più scura delle altre.
L'elaborazione in generale non è un granchè, perchè l'ho fatta direttamente dalla fotocamera, per i motivi spiegati nel mio primo messaggio di risposta. Anzi, dato che vedo che sei davvero bravo nell'elaborazione, non sapresti dirmi perchè camera raw mi rende più scuri tutti i miei file NEF?Eeeek!!!
Ciao e grazie del passaggio Sorriso

Thanks Integrate your analysis, I really like your photos and then follow with particular attention to your recommendations.
I agree that I walked a bit 'too hands with saturation now that I look at the photos from another monitor (the one on my laptop did not seem so vivid colors :-|), but, as I said above, the sunset had of colors and reflections so bright lake nearest to the second version that I posted in the message.
When you write
The saturation and 'unnatural dare much notice from the gray clouds that would reflect their color and create a mirror as in the original
I do not understand the history of the gray clouds are seen reflected on water : close to the body Cloudy larger stones, and at various points in the orange zone.
For the purple, you're right, last night from my monitor seemed to me only a darker area of ??the other.
Processing in general is not great, because I did it directly from the camera, for the reasons explained in my first reply message. In fact, since I see you're really good at drawing, you would not know you tell me why camera raw makes me darker all my NEF files? Wow!
Hello and thanks for the passage :-)

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sent on July 23, 2012 (8:59)


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Grazie anche a C.SAlari e Andrea78 Sorriso
stasera proverò a rielaborarla meglio!;-)


Thanks also to C.SAlari and Andrea78 :-)
tonight I'll try to rework it better! ;-)

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sent on July 23, 2012 (10:07)


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" perchè camera raw (vai a capire perchè!) mi rende tutti le mie foto più scure rispetto a quello che mi appaiono sul display"

Potrebbe essere che usi on-camera un picture control che tende a schiarire l'immagine.

Comunque Camer Raw serve per bilanciare la foto, nella seconda vedo le ombre chiuse, penso tu non abbia lavorato con "Luce di schiarita"; io non importo in CS in modalità neutra, ma regolo prima almeno Bilanciamento del bianco - Esposizione - Recupero - Luce di schiarita - Neri e, se necessario, Chiarezza e Saturazione.
Alcuni preferiscono importare da Camera Raw con settaggi completamente neutri, io preferisco usare almeno i controlli della pagina principale.

why camera raw (go figure why!) Makes me all my pictures darker than what I appear on the display


Could it be that you are using an on-camera picture control which tends to lighten the image.

However Camer Raw serves to balance the picture, I see the shadows closed in the second, I think you have not worked with "Fill Light" and I do not amount in CS mode neutral, but the first rule at least balance White - Exhibition - Recovery - Fill Light - Blacks and, if necessary, Clarity and Saturation.
Some prefer to import from Camera Raw settings with completely neutral, I prefer to use at least the controls on the main page.

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sent on July 23, 2012 (10:15)


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Nessun settaggio particolare on camera, importo in camera raw con tutto impostato su neutro.
Addirittura, quando importo da LR, l'anteprima la vedo chiara come nel display, appena apro la foto, questa si scurisce istantaneamente Eeeek!!!
ho provato a controllare se ci fosse qualche impostazione sballata di LR, ma è tutto regolare...

No particular setting on camera, amount in camera raw with everything set to neutral.
Even when they amount to LR, the preview I see it as clear as in the display, as soon as I open the photo, it darkens instantly wow!
I tried to check if there was any setting busted LR, but you're all set ...

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sent on July 23, 2012 (10:32)


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anche a me piace decisamente di più la 2nd versione

I too like much more the 2nd version


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