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Butterfly sent on June 12, 2012 (14:23) by Marcello Consolo. 15 comments, 773 views.

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sent on June 13, 2012 (20:21)


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bell'incontro ma il non perfetto parallelismo con la farfa ti ha fatto perdere la maf sul bordo in primo piano che a me personalmente disturba un bel pò, riprovaci ;-)

nice person but not perfectly parallel with the farfa made you lose the maf on the board in the foreground that bothers me personally quite a while, Try again ;-)

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sent on June 13, 2012 (20:35)


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quoto

quoto

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sent on June 13, 2012 (22:55)


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Grazie ad entrambi, non ero sicuro fosse per quello, ma adesso posso starci più attento almeno ;)

Ciao,
Marcello

Thank you both, I was not sure it was for that, but now I can be there at least closer ;)

Hello,
Marcello

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sent on June 14, 2012 (9:00)


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bè complimenti per la cattura !

Well congratulations for the catch!

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sent on June 14, 2012 (13:37)


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Ciao Marcello, peccato per il parallelismo sbagliato, il soggetto è davvero molto ma molto bello, dove lo hai catturato? Ciao alla prossima.

Davide Morellini

Hello Marcello, shame about the parallelism wrong, the subject is really very, very nice, where did you captured? Hello to the next.

David Morellini

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sent on June 14, 2012 (13:44)


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Si beh, sono andato al Butterfly Arc (Casa delle farfalle), non credo di incontrarne una così fuori :) Tra l'altro non sono riuscito a trovare neanche il nome!
Una cosa ... a me piace anche fotografare i dettagli, tipo solo chi occhi, la proboscide, o anche solo la testa/torace, secondo voi conviene postarli dei particolari così o meglio di no ..
Un altra cosa e scusate se forse sono OT, x la MAF completa basta il "parallelismo" di cui parla Mauro, indipendentemente dal diaframma e dalla modalità di MAF, per esempio x il macro uso sempre Spot.

Grazie a tutti

CIao,
Marcello

Yeah well, I went to the Butterfly Arc (Butterfly House), I do not bump into a well off :) By the way I could not even find the name!
One thing ... I also like to photograph the details, such as only those eyes, the trunk, or even just the head / thorax, according to details you should post it as well or better than no ..
One other thing, and maybe I'm sorry if OT, x the MAF just complete the "parallelism" mentioned Mauro, regardless of the diaphragm mode and MAF, for example x the macro always use Spot.

Thanks to all

Hello,
Marcello

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sent on June 14, 2012 (13:46)


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Grazie Davide, purtroppo ho cominciato da poco ed ancora ho bisogno di fare moooolta pratica e spero mi diate una mano con i consigli (come vedo state già facendo).
Come dicevo sopra sono andato al Butterfly Arc che si trova a Montegrotto (PD), abito vicino, infatti dopo aver appreso qualche altro consiglio tornerò e cercherò di far del mio meglio ;)

Grazie

Ciao,
Marcello

Thanks David, unfortunately I just started and I still need to do moooolta practice and I hope you give me a hand with the advice (as I see you are already doing).
As I said above I went to the Butterfly Arc which is located in Abano (PD), live near, in fact, after learning some other advice and I will try to make my best ;)

Thanks

Hello,
Marcello

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sent on June 14, 2012 (16:04)


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la MAF centra poco con lo spot dato che la misurazione in spot misura l'esposizione , magari volevi dire il punto di maf centrale allora va bene.
con un buon parallelismo con il soggetto sicuramente migliora la maf ma non basta più ti avvicini al soggetto + la profondità di campo e ridotta quindi devi chiudere i diaframmi per aumentare la PDC , sai quante volte fotografando una farfalla avevo tutto a fuoco e l'antenna sfocata.
Vuoi un consiglio, scatta scatta e scatta


the MAF has nothing to do with the spot since the measurement spot size exposure, maybe you meant the central point of maf then it's fine.
with a good parallelism with the subject certainly enhances the maf but not enough you get closer to the subject + the depth of field and low so you have to close the aperture to increase the PDC, you know how many times photographing a butterfly I had everything in focus and the antenna blurred.
Want some advice, take snaps and pops

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sent on June 14, 2012 (17:21)


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soggetto stupendo quoto sopra, resta comunque una bella cattura;-)

wonderful subject quoto above, it is still a nice catch ;-)

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sent on June 14, 2012 (20:56)


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Esatto Mauro, intendevo dire il punto di MAF centrale. Proprio come dici te, più ti avvicini al soggetto più la PDC diminuisce, a volte cerco di chiudere il più possibile il diaframma ma con la velocità dell' otturatore (tempo di posa) sono spesso già in tempi critici (faccio foto solo a mano libera), l' unica carta che mi rimane da giocare è l' ISO, fin'ora ho sempre cercato di rimanere a 100, ma credo che dovrò provare ad alzare un pò...

Grazie ;)

Grazie anche a Petruccelli72 :)

Ciao,
Marcello

Mauro's right, I mean the central point of MAF. Just as you say, you get closer to the subject over the PDC decreases, sometimes I try to close the aperture as much as possible but with the speed of 'Shutter (shutter speed) are often already in critical times (I only photos freehand ), the 'only card I have left to play is the' ISO, so far I have always tried to stay at 100, but I guess I'll try to raise a little ...

Thanks ;)

Thanks also to Petruccelli72 :)

Hello,
Marcello

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sent on June 14, 2012 (21:37)


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ciao....
anche a me piace scattare qualche macro a mano libera....

se posso darti un consiglio....l'ideale è scattare al tramonto o in una giornata nuvolosa dove il cielo fa da enorme diffusore....i soggetti inoltre sono meno attivi....

tempi veloci...io con un 90mm non scendo mai sotto 1/250.....diaframma da f/11 in su....e iso chiaramente regolati di conseguenza....
dopo di che parallelismo....apnea....e tanta pazienza e passione....

a mano libera si possono immortalare situazioni altrimenti impossibili.

porto sempre con me un pannello traslucido...non uso mai il flash perché non mi piace.

ciao.

hello ....
also I like to take some macro freehand ....

if I can give you some advice .... the ideal is to take at sunset or on a cloudy day where the sky is as huge diffuser .... those are also less active ....

fast times with a 90mm ... I do not ever get out from under 1/250.....diaframma f/11 and ISO up .... clearly adjusted accordingly ....
after which parallelism .... Apnea .... and a lot of patience and passion ....

Freehand can capture situations that would otherwise be impossible.

I always carry with me a translucent panel ... I never use the flash because I do not like.

hello.

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sent on June 14, 2012 (22:30)


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Ciao Simone,

sono daccordo, quando il sole non è intenso credo sia il momento migliore :)
1/250 ? Mhh .. io credo di non esserci mai arrivato col Canon 100L IS F2.8, al max penso di essere arrivato a 125 con il Bombo e api varie, anzi una volta sola forse a 160 con il Macroglossum stellatarum perchè raccoglieva il polline in volo senza posarsi :)
Il problema è che scatto sempre a ISO 100 quindi non ho molto gioco, ma da domani provo ad alzare e vediamo come va, ho sempre paura di vedere quella grana fastidiosa ...
Esatto, io preferisco a mano libera per vari motivi, e comunque non mi riesce scattare con cavalletto ad insetti/farfalle ed animali in movimento continuo, specie con un macro ... sarà questione di abitudine magari.
Il pannello traslucido è un ottima idea, riguardo al flash ho provato in alcune situazioni, ma il flash normale fa più danni che altro, avevo intenzione di prenderne uno anulare a led, da spendere poco giusto per provare...
Un ultima cosa, l'autofocus lo metto in modalità Servo per seguire meglio il soggetto, o sbaglio?

Grazie per le dritte!

Ciao,
Marcello

Hello Simon,

I agree, when the sun is not intense I think it is the best time :)
1/250? Mhh .. I think we never came with the Canon 100L F2.8 IS, the max I think I got to 125 with the Bee and various bees, even once maybe 160 with Macroglossum stellatarum because collecting pollen in the air without rest: )
The problem is always shooting at ISO 100 so I did not play much, but I try to get up tomorrow and see how it goes, I'm always afraid to see that annoying grain ...
That's right, I prefer a free hand for various reasons, and in any case I can not stand to shoot insects / butterflies and animals in continuous movement, species with a macro ... maybe it will be a matter of habit.
The translucent panel is a great idea, I tried to flash with respect to thesome situations, but the normal flash does more harm than good, I was going to get one led annular, to spend a little just to try ...
One last thing, I put it in autofocus mode Servant to better follow the subject, is not it?

Thanks for the tips!

Hello,
Marcello

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sent on June 15, 2012 (17:59)


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si solito tempo di sicurezza uguale lunghezza in mm della focale, nel caso del 100 L IS accendi lo stabilizzatore e puoi anche diminuire il tempo in base agli stop che l'is del 100 tiene, ricordati di calcolare i mm giusti se usi aps-c aps-h o FF

per le macro a mano libera de gustibus preferisco quelle fatte di mattina presto dove la scena la decido io

safety time is usually equal to the focal length in mm, in the case of 100 L IS turn on the stabilizer and can also decrease the time according to the stop that is the 100 holding, remember to calculate mm right if you use aps-c aps-h or FF

for macros freehand de gustibus prefer those made early in the morning I decide where the scene

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sent on June 16, 2012 (9:27)


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Si, infatti col Canon 100 cerco di non scendere mai sotto 1/100, a volte anche 1/80 se non sono nervoso :) Ho una Canon 7D, quindi APS-C.
Per esempio ieri ho trovato dei bruchi di Papilio machaon appena entrati al secondo stadio (sono ancora neri e arancioni), ho deciso di fare degli scatti col cavalletto, risultato: le ho buttate tutte! Ho messo 1/20-30 xchè erano già le 20 passate ed il sole era rosso quindi non illuminava molto, insomma diciamo che c'era pochissima luce, mi sono messo col sole alle spalle giusto x illuminare un pò il bruchetto, ho visto che a 100 ISO e diaframma da F5 a F8 potevo giocare solo con tempi di 1/20 a 1/50, fai conto che la luce è andata via dopo pochi minuti, praticamente non avevo molto tempo x regolare la macchina. Il problema diciamo (almeno credo) è stato il vento, c'era un pò di vento e nonostante avessi provato anche con un plump, la pianta di finocchietto si muoveva visibilmente e non volevo toccare il bruchetto poverino, l' ho lasciato sul suo ramoscello ... risultato circa 30 scatti completamente fuori fuoco! (ho scattato con telecomando da remoto).
Pazienza, stasera o domani appena ho 10 minuti liberi riprovo ...

Grazie Mauro ...

Ciao,
Marcello

Yes, in fact with Canon 100 I try not to go below 1/100, sometimes even 1/80 if I'm not nervous :) I have a Canon 7D, and APS-C.
For example, yesterday I found some caterpillars of Papilio machaon just entered the second stage (there are still blacks and orange), I decided to do some shots with tripod, result: I threw them all! I put 1/20-30 xchè it was already past 20 and the sun was not shining red so much, in fact say that there was very little light, I started with the sun behind just a little bit of illuminating x caterpillar, I saw that at 100 ISO and aperture F5 to F8 I could only play with time 1/20 to 1/50, you realize that the light went away after a few minutes, almost did not have much time x adjust the machine. The problem we say (I think) it was the wind, there was a bit of wind and even though I tried ANCHand a plump, the plant fennel visibly moved and did not want to touch the caterpillar poor, I 've left on his twig ... result about 30 shots completely out of focus! (I shot with remote control remotely).
Patience, tonight or tomorrow when I tried again 10 minutes free ...

Thanks Mauro ...

Hello,
Marcello

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sent on June 16, 2012 (12:26)


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e si il vento è il nostro peggior nemico per i macristi, buona luce marcello

and the wind is our worst enemy for macristi, good light marcello


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