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| sent on September 05, 2015 (23:01) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Yes; I was torn between a pilgrim and Lanner but then I saw that the photo was taken at the Gran Paradiso and then say the first. Si; ero incerto tra pellegrino e lanario ma poi ho visto che la foto è stata scattata al Gran Paradiso ed allora dico il primo. |
| sent on September 06, 2015 (0:02) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Not to do the contrarian, but saw the mustache is not a pilgrim !! Non per fare il bastian contrari,ma visto il baffo non è un pellegrino!! |
| sent on September 06, 2015 (0:22) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Compliments. Complimenti. |
| sent on September 06, 2015 (8:02)
Excellent flight shot.
Regards,
Satish. |
| sent on September 06, 2015 (12:48) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Most just Charles; that is precisely what I had thought to Lanner, except to change my mind for the seat of the shot. It remains the kestrel but was perplexed because the subject of the picture seems oversized for this hypothesis and see different solutions to problems. Ahead anyway with other opinions :-). Giustissimo Carlo; è per quello appunto che avevo pensato al lanario, salvo ricredermi per la sede dello scatto. Rimane il gheppio ma resto perplesso perché il soggetto della foto mi sembra sovradimensionato per questa ipotesi e soluzioni diverse le vedo problematiche. Avanti comunque con altri pareri . |
| sent on September 06, 2015 (12:52) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I say kestrel saw the resorts' :-) Io dico gheppio visto la localita' |
| sent on September 06, 2015 (13:08) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Thanks for the ride guys.
Kestrel rule it out ... let x as it flew ... x the shape of the wings ... both xi colors ... but above your head ... x has the typical "whisker" black on the bottom of the pilgrim ... Lanner or ... or lodolaio.
... Then he flew over 2000m in height ... between rocky ridges that reach 3500mt ... and managed to photograph it because it was "down" ...
I was in Val Rhemes ... we went to the shelter to Benevolent 2285mt. Grazie del passaggio ragazzi.
Gheppio lo escludo...sia x come volava...sia x la forma delle ali...sia x i colori...ma soprattutto x la testa... Ha il tipico "baffo" nero in basso del pellegrino...o lanario...o lodolaio.
Poi...volava sopra 2000mt di altezza...tra costoni rocciosi che arrivano a 3500mt...e sono riuscito a fotografarlo solo perché si era "abbassato"...
Ero in Val Rhemes...siamo andati al rifugio Benevolo a 2285mt. |
| sent on September 06, 2015 (13:22) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Even if it were a kestrel certainly not afraid to fly to 2500 mt. Peregrine rule it out !! Hello !! Se anche fosse un gheppio di certo non ha paura di volare a 2500mt. Pellegrino lo escludo!!Ciao!! |
| sent on September 06, 2015 (16:06) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
The photo is impressive!
However I agree with Carlobay: Kestrel. Probably adult female seen that, unlike the males, they can be glimpsed the lines on the tail, and the spots on the body come up to the belly. We must consider that this species is common up to 2000 meters and occasionally comes up to 3000 meters. The hawks like tanner and Lanner have different designs but also a "silhouette" more massive. Hello La foto è suggestiva!
Comunque concordo con Carlobay: Gheppio. Probabilmente femmina adulta visto che, a differenza dei maschi, si intravvedono le righe sulla coda, e le macchie sul corpo arrivano fino alla pancia. Bisogna considerare che questa specie è comune fino ai 2000 mt e sporadicamente arriva fino ai 3000 mt. I falchi tipo Pellagrino e Lanario hanno disegni diversi ma soprattutto una "siluette" più massiccia. Ciao |
| sent on September 06, 2015 (19:56) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I also confirm, kestrel Confermo anche io, gheppio |
| sent on September 07, 2015 (9:44) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I am inclined to the kestrel, which is given to a breeder in Vallle Aosta up to 2850 meters.
Exclude the pilgrim, because of the mustache, and the Lanner, because of the altitude. Propendo anch'io per il gheppio, che viene dato per nidificante in Vallle d'Aosta fino a 2850 metri.
Escludo il pellegrino, per via del baffo, e il lanario, per via della quota. |
| sent on September 07, 2015 (22:59) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I would say I kestrel. I'm comparing a photo of a book and they are virtually identical, especially for dark shade saddles wing tips. As for the way of flying, he has also misled me more than once to the point that, while looking good pictures, I was convinced that it was not him ... a friend of PNAM has dismantled all my assumptions, confirming that it was kestrels. Hello Garga and enjoy the rest. Marco direi anch'io gheppio. Sto confrontando una foto di un libro e sono praticamente identici, sopratutto per la sfumatura scura selle estremità delle ali. In quanto al modo di volare, ha tratto in inganno anche me più di una volta al punto che, pur guardando bene le foto, ero convinto che non fosse lui...un amico del PNAM ha smontato tutte le mie ipotesi, confermando che era il gheppio. Ciao Garga e buon proseguimento. marco |
| sent on September 12, 2015 (15:00) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
“ Kestrel rule it out ... „
Kestrel 100%
It's funny how you ask for help on the identification of a bird of prey and then, when they arrive we question. wow!
P. " Gheppio lo escludo..."
Gheppio 100%
È buffo vedere come si chieda aiuto sull'identificazione di un rapace e poi, quando queste arrivano le mettiamo in discussione. 
P. |
| sent on September 12, 2015 (15:13) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Instead because it had excluded I asked for lights ... Invece proprio perché lo avevo escluso ho chiesto lumi... |
| sent on September 12, 2015 (18:40) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Gargasecca Hello, I hope now that you're convinced !!! Ciao Gargasecca,spero adesso che ti sei convinto!!! |
| sent on September 12, 2015 (21:55) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Gargasecca Hello, I'm sorry but I would say not. If one writes kestrel rule it out by listing a lot of reasons why it is sure that it is not a hawk. So, please, do not say now that you asked just lights.
Without controversy eh ... but the joke is not like.
P. Ciao Gargasecca, scusami ma direi proprio di no. Se uno scrive gheppio lo escludo elencando anche un sacco di motivi è perchè è sicuro che non sia un gheppio. Quindi, per cortesia, adesso non dire che chiedevi solo lumi.
Senza polemica eh...ma essere presi in giro non mi piace.
P. |
| sent on September 13, 2015 (9:29) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Forgive me ... I wrote that just x scludevo the reasons I listed ... and it excluded a priori ... I asked on the forum ... maybe I explained wrong ... but I have not fooled anybody.
If I had been sure of the species ... I would not have written the title that way ... do not you think?
See you soon. Perdonami...ho scritto che lo scludevo proprio x le ragioni che ho elencato...ed avendolo escluso a priori...ho chiesto sul forum...forse mi sono spiegato male...ma non ho preso in giro nessuno.
Se fossi stato sicuro della specie...non avrei scritto il titolo in quel modo...non credi?
A presto. |
user28347 | sent on September 28, 2015 (19:23) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
also seems to me a young kestrel ;-) anche a me pare un gheppio giovane |
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