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sent on September 05, 2015 (9:47)


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Molto bella!

Very nice!

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sent on September 06, 2015 (11:41)


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Grazie Diamante, detto da te vale molto

With Diamond, coming from you is worth a lot

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sent on September 21, 2015 (12:35)


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Bellissima complimenti
Domanda: questo obbiettivo ha le stesse caratteristiche del Trioplan ?
Grazie, ciao
Donatella

Beautiful compliments
Question: This goal has the same characteristics of Trioplan?
Thank you, bye
Donatella

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sent on September 21, 2015 (12:56)


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Ciao Donatella , credo sia tra gli obiettivi piu' economici e facili da reperire sul mercato , l'esemplare che uso è trai i primi modelli (versione 44-2) ed equipaggiava la mia prima reflex Zenith E del 1971, un vero cavallo di battaglia per generazioni di fotografi , naturalmente manca di tutte le innovazioni poi introdotte nei modelli successivi, il diaframma andava preselezionato con una ghiera e al momento dello scatto chiuso con un'altra ghiera, questo per facilatare la messa a fuoco ai diaframmi piu' chiusi . La sua caratteristica migliore sta proprio nei suoi ''difetti'' , scarsa resa alla massima apertura e un trattamento antiriflessi di prima generazione che accentua i giochi interni della luce tra le lenti producendo quell'effetto bokeh del tutto fantastico ( per mia opinione) . Alcuni giungono a montare la prima o seconda lente a rovescio per accentuare questo effetto. Insomma se ti capita tra le mani un esemplare in discrete condizioni senza colture di ''funghi'' nelle lenti non lasciartelo scaappare! Ah, non spaventarti di tracce di olio sulle lamelle del diaframma, i russi avevano la mano pesante sulla lubrificazione , forse per il clima in cui erano progettati funzionare. Se ti servono altre informazione in merito chiedi pure, ciao Fabrizio


Hello Donatella, I think is one of the objectives more 'cheap and easy to find on the market, the model I use is you draw the first models (version 44-2) and was fitted my first SLR Zenith And in 1971, a real workhorse for generations of photographers, of course lacks all the innovations then introduced in later models, the diaphragm was preselected with a ring and when shooting indoors with another ring, this facilatare to focus Aperture more 'closed. Its best feature lies in its '' flaws '', poor performance at maximum aperture and an anti-reflection treatment of first generation that emphasizes internal games of the light from the lens to produce that effect bokeh all great (in my opinion). Some come to mount the first or second lens backward to accentuatethis effect. So if you get it in my hands a copy in fair condition with no crops '' mushrooms '' in the lenses and must not be scaappare! Ah, do not be afraid of traces of oil on the aperture blades, the Russians had a heavy hand on lubrication, perhaps for the climate in which they were designed to work. If you need more information about ask well, hello Fabrizio

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sent on September 21, 2015 (13:14)


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Ti ringrazio molto, mi piace questo genere di foto, ma conoscevo solo il Trioplan, che al momento ha dei prezzi proibitivi, prenderò in considerazione il tuo suggerimento
Se hai delle info per reperire l obbiettivo te ne sono grata
Ciao
Donatella

Thank you very much, I like this kind of pictures, but I only knew the Trioplan, which currently has the price prohibitive, I will consider your suggestion
If you have any info for finding objective I am grateful
Hello
Donatella

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sent on September 21, 2015 (13:24)


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Ciao Dona, tenendo conto che è sicuramente tra gli obiettivi piu' prodotti di tutti i tempi ne puoi reperire a decine su ebay, anche se ultimamente il prezzo è molto lievitato per via della facilita' d'uso di questo genere di obiettivo sulle moderne mirrorless , sta di fatto che dai 25 ai 50 euro è il prezzo ''giusto'' . Ti passo un link interessante dove trovi molte informazioni in merito :http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Helios-44
Ciao,Fabrizio

Hello Dona, taking into account that one of the objectives is definitely more 'products of all time we can find dozens of ebay, although lately the price has risen much because of the ease' of use of this kind of goal in modern mirrorless , the fact is that from 25 to 50 Euros is the price '' right ''. You pass a link where you can find many interesting information about: http: //camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Helios-44
Hello, Fabrizio

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sent on September 21, 2015 (13:41)


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Ora sono fuori questa sera ti mando il sito che ho trovato , per avere una tua opinione
Grazie del tuo tempo
Ciao

Now I'm out tonight I send the site I found, to have your opinion
Thanks for your time
Hello

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sent on September 21, 2015 (14:03)


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Dalla miniatura avrei giurato fosse il Trioplan... Interessante questo Zenith, visti i prezzi (assurdi) del Trioplan.

The miniature could have sworn it was the Trioplan ... Interesting this Zenith, given the prices (absurd) of Trioplan.

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sent on September 21, 2015 (14:14)


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vero Pasquale, ma anche altri ''vecchi'' 50 hanno degli effetti molto suggestivi , li sto provando visto la facilita' di reperibilita , nonchè i prezzi che ormai hanno raggiunto i Meyer Gorlitz

Pasquale true, but also other '' old '' 50 have effects very impressive, I'm trying them saw the ease 'of reperibilita, as well as the prices which have now reached the Meyer Gorlitz

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sent on September 27, 2015 (18:07)


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Ciao Fabrizio, molto bello il boken. Anch'io ho questo obiettivo, con attacchi anteriori e posteriori per la Canon 600D. Ho anche il 135/3,5. Quest'ultimo ha ben 12 lamelle nel diaframma, permettendo boken quasi tondi a diaframmi inferiori al massimo.
Bella serie di riflessi.
Giovanni.

Hello Fabrizio, very nice boken. I also have this goal, with front and rear for the Canon 600D. I also have the 135 / 3.5. The latter has 12 well plates in the diaphragm, allowing boken almost round diaphragm below the maximum.
Beautiful series of reflections.
John.

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sent on September 27, 2015 (18:48)


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Grazie Giovanni, ho avuto anche io il 135 tanti anni fa , ora lo rimpiango, cosi' come l' 85 che era stupendo
per fortuna si stanno rivalutando queste ottiche che sanno dare ancoraa tante soddisfazioni
Ciao,
Fabrizio

Thanks John, I've also had the 135 many years ago, now regret it, so 'as the' 85 which was gorgeous
fortunately they are re-evaluating these lenses that can give much satisfaction ancoraa
Hello,
Fabrizio

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sent on September 27, 2015 (21:39)


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Ordinato, in un sito Russo, come il tuo
Ti farò sapere quando arriva
Ciao

Neat, a Russian site, such as your
I'll let you know when it arrives
Hello

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sent on September 28, 2015 (9:46)


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Brava ! Ciao Donatella
fabrizio

Brava! Hello Donatella
fabrizio

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sent on October 14, 2015 (17:32)


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Prima o poi un'ottica vintage russa me la faccio anche io da montare sulla fuji.. la resa è superba e anche questa immagine ne è un degno esempio ;-)

Sooner or later a view vintage Russian me I do too to mount on Fuji .. the yield is also superb and this is an example worthy ;-)

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sent on October 16, 2015 (15:52)


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Ciao Mtj e grazie delle visite!
Se riesci a trovare un Helios 85 1,5 in buon stato d'uso e a un prezzo abbordabile pendilo al volo , ma anche il classico helios 44 da buoni risultati e sulla fuji credimi è un altro pianeta, te lo dico perchè ho anche Canon,Nikon e Pentax ma le vintage sulla Fuji sembrano sbocciare a nuova vita



Hello and thanks Mtj of visits!
If you can find a Helios 85 1.5 in good condition for use and affordable pendilo the fly, but also the classic helios 44 good results and believe me fuji is another planet, I'll tell you why I also Canon, Nikon and Pentax but the vintage on Fuji seem to blossom to new life


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sent on October 16, 2015 (18:40)


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bellissima. Helios davvero ben utilizzato

gorgeous. Helios really well used

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sent on October 16, 2015 (19:07)


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Grazie mille Claudio !!!!!

Thank you very much Claudio !!!!!

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sent on October 16, 2015 (19:19)


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io ho un Helios 44-4 58 mm f/2 con adattatore (con un lente) per Nikon di una vecchia Zenith TTL. Chi lo sa in cosa differisce dal tuo. Forse più moderno?

I have a Helios 44-4 58mm f / 2 adapter (with a lens) to Nikon's an old Zenith TTL. Who knows how it differs from yours. Perhaps more modern?

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sent on October 16, 2015 (19:41)


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ne ho uno anche io di 44-4 , è piu' moderno certamente , ha perso la seconda ghiera e ha migliorato il trattamento antiriflesso , nel 44-4 ho fatto diversi esperimenti modificando l'orientamento delle lenti interne per enfatizzare l'effetto swirl, di certo pero' perdi la messa a fuoco all'infinito e la nitidezza anche ai diaframmi chiusi non esiste piu' , non li uso sulla nikon per via del tiraggio che obbliga a prendere degli adattori con lente o a rinunciare alla maf sull'infinito


I also have one of 44-4, is more 'modern course, lost the second ring and improved anti-reflective coating, the 44-4 I made several experiments by changing the orientation of the internal lens to emphasize the effect swirl, certainly, however, 'you lose infinity focus and sharpness even at small apertures no longer exists', do not use them on the Nikon because of the draw that forces you to take the adapters with slow or renounce maf infinity

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sent on October 16, 2015 (20:13)


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Complimenti un bello scatto , pensavo che fossero solo i Trioplan a fare questi effetti grazie di averci dato un' altra possibilità sull' acquisto quasi proebitivo del Trioplan .
Ciao Redi

Compliments a beautiful shot, I thought they were only Trioplan to make these effects thanks for giving us a 'no choice on' purchase of nearly proebitivo Trioplan.
Hello Redi


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