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Orion Belt and Sword...

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Orion Belt and Sword sent on January 29, 2015 (19:39) by Marzio Bambini. 17 comments, 3341 views.

, Posa B f/4.0, ISO 1600, tripod.

LT: 24.1.2015 21h 00m, Novezzina, Monte Baldo 1250 mt (VR), t=1°c, Canon EF 200 f/2.0 L at f/4.0, Canon EOS 60D CentralDS ts=-19°c at 1600 Iso, Takahashi Em200 no guide. Integration 29x2', 5 dark, 33 bias, 33 flat, PixInsight.



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sent on January 29, 2015 (21:56)


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Molto bella, complimenti !!

Very nice, congratulations !!

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sent on January 29, 2015 (22:09)


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Skender ti ringrazio, ma quanti problemi !!!!!
A sud Verona con le sue luci.... si vede bene in basso a dxEeeek!!!
Poi sono arrivate le nuvole e ho dovuto scartare un sacco di fotoTriste
E in ogni caso questo soggetto dovrebbe essere affrontato in hdr.
Vediamo se con la prossima riusciamo a fare meglioSorriso
Buona serataMrGreen


Skender thank you, but how much trouble !!!!!
South Verona with its lights .... well you see at the bottom dxwow!
Then came the clouds and I had to discard a lot of photos:-(
And in any case this subject should be addressed in hdr.
Let's see if we can do the next best:-)
Good evening:-D

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sent on January 29, 2015 (22:24)


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Capita sempre cosi tra nuvole,foschie, si buttano via metà delle foto e non si riesce a fare una foto con tutto il segnale desiderato! Anche a me capita spesso di non riuscire a fare la foto che voglio!! Buona serata anche a te!!

It happens always so between clouds, mists, you throw away half of the picture and you can not take a picture with all the desired signal! Me too often fail to do the photo you want !! Good evening to you too !!

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sent on January 29, 2015 (22:26)


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Spettacolare.Sorriso

Spectacular. :-)

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sent on January 30, 2015 (7:49)


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Marzio splendido scatto *_* se posso vorrei chiederti una cosa. Parli di hdr, ma nelle foto deep come si fa? Usi programmi dedicati o photoshop come per gli scatti normali o software tipo deepskystacker fanno già il lavoro? Avresti qualche link dove spiegano come si procede? Anche per altri tipi di post produzione... sai... cerco di capire come procedono gli altri in pp, io dopo l'uso di dss inizio a perdermi :')

Marzio splendid shooting * _ * if I can I would like to ask you something. Talk about HDR, but deep in the pictures as you do? Uses dedicated programs like Photoshop or for shots or normal type software DeepSkyStacker already do the job? Would you have a link where you explain how to proceed? For other types of post production ... you know ... I try to figure out how to proceed in the other pp, I after using dss beginning to lose myself: ')

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sent on January 30, 2015 (9:20)


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Davvero bellissima, apprezzo in particolare la resa naturale dei colori.

Really beautiful, I appreciate in particular the natural color reproduction.

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sent on January 30, 2015 (11:10)


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Molto bella, gran resa del 200 mm e ottima elaborazione. :) Complimenti ;-)
Per la postazione, sei andato all'osservatorio o ti sei fermato solo in zona?



Very nice, large yield of 200 mm and excellent processing. :) Thank you;-)
For the location, you went to the observatory or you stopped only in the area?


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sent on January 30, 2015 (17:22)


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x Fasoad:
Ci siamo messi nel parcheggio antistante l'osservatorio più o meno dalle 19.30 alle 23.00 circa.
Conosci l'associazione?
Ti ringrazio per i complimentiSorriso
Ciao, Marzio

x Fasoad:
We got in the car park in front of the observatory more or less from 19.30 to 23.00 approximately.
Been to the association?
Thank you for the compliments:-)
Hello, Marzio

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sent on January 30, 2015 (17:22)


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Un ringraziamento a tuttiMrGreen
Marzio

Thanks to all:-D
Marzio

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sent on January 30, 2015 (17:43)


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....e per ultimo vengo a te HrMiri xkè la domanda è tutt'altro che banale;-)
Vengo anch'io dall'esperienza di DSS e CS6, ma poi ho scoperto PixInsight ..... ed è cambiato il mondo !!!!
Con l'analogico e la tp2415 era un bel c...no, fai la cottura all'idrogeno in camera a pressione, metti sali essiccanti, mettila in congelatore, sviluppala con il d19 autoprodotto..... non so che esperienza tu abbia ma fino a qualche anno fa era un bel problema e con risultati non paragonabili ad oggi.
Oggi c'è il digitale.....e non è più semplice, anzi!
Vai di bias, flat, dark. light, e....... impazzisci letteralmente con i software di postproduzioneMrGreen
Sono passato a PixInsight perchè andando a curiosare nei vari blog ho visto che chi lo usava mi sembrava avere una marcia in più, ma non avevo considerato cosa potesse voler dire usarlo in pratica.... e ora dico che è cambiato il mondo.
Per fortuna il bello di questo strumento è anche un blog dedicato che ti permette di confrontarti con tanti altri astrfofili in giro per il globo che lo usano costantemente. Diventa quasi semplice capire cosa fare, ma credimi ho dovuto studiare!!!!!
Lo strumento prevede anche una funzione specifica (HDRComposition) per le fusioni hdr che partendo ovviamente da immagini prodotte con serie dedicate di scatti, esempio un treno da 4 minuti, uno da 2 e uno da 30 secondi, ti permette di fonderle/sostituire le componenti dell'immagine sovraesposte con quelle più corrette.
Te l'ho fatta semplice, ma lo strumento merita davvero.
Nel caso di m42 lo scopo è quello di eliminare il "buco bianco" del centro della nebulosa xkè troppo luminosa nei confronti della zona circostante....e ci proveremo!
Spero di averti aiutato, in ogni caso se vuoi approfondire sono ben volentieri a disposizione.
Ciao, MarzioMrGreen



.... And finally come to thee HrMiri xkè the question is far from trivial;-)
I'm coming from the experience of DSS and CS6, but then I discovered PixInsight ..... and it changed the world !!!!
With the analog and tp2415 was a nice c ... no, you do the cooking in the hydrogen pressure chamber, put salt drying, put it in the freezer, sviluppala with d19 self ..... I do not know what experience you have but a few years ago was a big problem and the results are not comparable to today.
Today there is the digital ..... and it is not easy at all!
Go bias, flat, dark. light, and ....... literally go mad with post-production software:-D
I switched to PixInsight because going to browse the various blogs I saw that those who used it seemed to have an edgemore, but I had not considered what it might mean to use it in practice .... and now say that the world has changed.
Fortunately, the great thing about this tool is even a blog dedicated that allows you to compare yourself astrfofili many others around the globe who use it constantly. Becomes almost easy to understand what to do, but believe me I had to study !!!!!
The tool also provides a specific function (HDRComposition) for mergers hdr that obviously starting from images produced by the series of shots dedicated, as a train of 4 minutes, one from 2:01 to 30 seconds, allows you to merge / replace components overexposed image with the most correct.
I've made a simple, but the tool really deserves.
In the case of M42, the aim is to eliminate the "white hole" of the center of the nebulosa xkè too bright against the surrounding area .... and we'll try!
I hope I have helped you in any case if you want to delve are gladly available.
Hello, Marzio:-D


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sent on January 30, 2015 (19:50)


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Conosco i posti e so che c'è l'osservatorio perché abito in provincia di Verona e sono stato svariate volte (tra giri in moto, pic-nic, campi scuola ecc.) nella zona. L'associazione non la conosco, so che c'è un sito...magari approfondirò.
Grazie anche per i dettagli dati a HrMiki sui programmi, mi sto districando anche io nella miriade di possibilità per la gestione della postproduzione.
Complimenti anche per le altre foto del profondo cielo, davvero impressionanti!
Stefano

I know the places and I know there is the observatory because I live in the province of Verona and I have been several times (including bike rides, picnics, school camps etc.) In the area. The association does not know you, I know there's a website ... I will deepen.
Thanks also to the details given in HrMiki programs, I'm unraveling even I in the myriad of possibilities for the management of post-production.
Congratulations also to the other photos of the deep sky, really impressive!
Stefano

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sent on January 30, 2015 (19:51)


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Grazie ancora Stefano;-)
Marzio

Thanks again Stefano;-)
Marzio

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sent on February 02, 2015 (12:44)


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Ciao Marzio e grazie della tua risposta. Imparare ad usare un altro programma non mi spaventa....avevo iniziato ad usare IRIS con le righe di comando!!!...ma visto che la mia strumentazione è limitata (uso solo dsrl a largo campo) per ora devo desistere dall'acquisto di una licenza per PixInsight Triste

Marzio Hello and thanks for your answer. Learn to use another program does not scare me .... I started using IRIS with command lines !!! ... but since my equipment is limited (only use DSRL wide field) for now I must desist from 'purchase of a license to PixInsight:-(

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sent on February 02, 2015 (21:51)


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Complimenti per la foto e per il 200/2! Come va su aps-c? penso che anche a f2.8 vada alla grande......hai usato filtri?

Congratulations for the photo and for 200/2! How's about aps-c? I think even at f2.8 go to great ...... you used filters?

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sent on February 06, 2015 (22:52)


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Complimenti Marzio, foto molto molto bella.:-P
Anch'io bazzico in giro per i Lessini, magari prima o poi ci troviamo.
Condivido il tuo pensiero su PixInsight ;-)

Congratulations Marzio, photos very very beautiful. :-P
I also hang out around the Lessini, maybe sooner or later we are.
I share your thoughts on PixInsight;-)

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sent on February 07, 2015 (10:40)


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Grazie Elio per i complimentiMrGreen
Perchè no, molto volentieri, magari ti mando un messaggio privato con i riferimenti la prossima volta che mi muovo:-P
Ciao;-)


Elio Thanks for the compliments:-D
Why not, happily, maybe I am sending you a private message with the references the next time I move:-P
Hello There;-)

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sent on February 07, 2015 (10:44)


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Ciao Sunblack,
non ho usato filtri e forse invece sarebbe stato il caso, con 2 minuti a f/4 il cielo era quasi bianco.
Il 200 f/2 è molto molto bello. A f/2.8 è già buono, ma a f/4 è superlativo fino agli angoli estremi.
Normalmente lo uso in aps-c come vedi, ma ho visto foto in ff sempre a f/4 veramente eccellenti.
Grazie, MarzioMrGreen

Hello Sunblack,
I did not use filters and maybe instead would have been the case, with 2 minutes at f / 4, the sky was almost white.
The 200 f / 2 is very very nice. At f / 2.8 is already good, but at f / 4 is superb up at extreme angles.
Normally I use it in aps-c, as you see, but I've seen pictures ff always af / 4 really excellent.
Thanks, Marzio:-D


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