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Martini's Fight...

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avatarjunior
sent on January 15, 2015 (10:49)


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Mamma miaEeeek!!!Eeeek!!!Eeeek!!!Eeeek!!!
Gran foto complimenti

Mom miawow! Wow! Wow! Wow!
Great photo compliments

avatarsupporter
sent on January 15, 2015 (10:53)

Amazing capture

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sent on January 15, 2015 (10:54)


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A me sinceramente sembra un bel fotomontaggio! ;-)Confuso

I really seems like a nice photo montage! ;-): Fconfuso:

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sent on January 15, 2015 (10:55)


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Se è reale gran momento colto Cool
Maurizio

If it is real great moment caught 8-)
Maurizio

avatarjunior
sent on January 15, 2015 (12:17)


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Grazie a tutti ragazzi! Un saluto
P.S. Volevo ricordare che quando "combattono" sono in hovering e quindi è facile riprenderli

Thank you all guys! A greeting
PS I wanted to remember that when "fighting" are hovering and then it's easy to take them back

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sent on January 15, 2015 (13:20)


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Stealth quello di sinistra è nella posizione di "spirito santo" e ok, ci sta (a parte che mi pare incollato sullo sfondo, ma va beh), ma quello di sinistra mi sembra in una posa da posatoio che mi pare tu abbia clonato via (e mi pare che anche questo sia incollato sullo sfondo)... Oltretutto il soggetto mi pare lo stesso.

Stealth left one is in the position of "holy spirit" and ok, there is (a part that seems stuck in the background, but okay), but the left one seems to roost in a pose that I think you've cloned via (and it seems to me that this is also glued on the background) ... Besides the subject seems to me the same.

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sent on January 15, 2015 (14:14)


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Ciao Federico. La foto non è un fotomontaggio come l'hai inteso tu, ma è stata ritoccata perchè nell'originale ci sono dei fili metallici che disturbano la scena (uno dei due si era appena posato!): ho semplicemente spostato lo sfondo in una zona più pulita. Il difficile è stato metterli a fuoco in mezzo ai fili caso mai....
Comunque per toglierti ogni dubbio (se vuoi) ti mando per mail l'originale RAW. Se non ti basta ti mando tutta la fotosequenza.....ma ti assicuro che questa scena è vera: I MARTINI LITIGANO IN QUELLE POSE!
Ciao

Hello Federico. The photo is not a montage as you have understood you, but because it has been retouched in the original there are wires that disturb the scene (one of the two had just put down!): I have just moved to the background in a more clean. The hard part was put in focus in the middle of the wire if ever ....
However, to take away any doubt (if you want) I send you by mail the original RAW. Do not just send thee whole fotosequenza ..... but I assure you that this scene is true: The MARTINI quarrel IN THOSE POSE!
Hello

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sent on January 15, 2015 (14:58)


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Gran momento fermato...ottima anche la nitidezza dei due soggetti....complimenti...

Great time stopped ... also excellent sharpness of the two entities .... congratulations ...

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sent on January 16, 2015 (11:17)


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Puoi mettere il il JPG del RAW non elaborato con un link qui sulla discussione, non c'è bisogno che me lo mandi via email...

You can put the JPG of unprocessed RAW with a link on the discussion, there is no need to send it to me via email ...

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sent on January 16, 2015 (12:24)


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Federico,
eccoti accontentato:

drive.google.com/open?id=0B6PDn2DvnhlDZ3M1WW5VSkxPNmM&authuser=0

Spero possa porre fine ai tuoi dubbi sull'autenticità della scena ripresa.

Ciao

Federico,
there you are satisfied:

drive.google.com/open?id=0B6PDn2DvnhlDZ3M1WW5VSkxPNmM&authuser=0

I hope I can put an end to your doubts about the authenticity of the scene.

Hello

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sent on January 16, 2015 (15:15)


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Ottimo scatto!!


Great shot !!

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sent on January 16, 2015 (15:51)


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Ok Stealth ammetto che la foto sia veritiera ma, a parte il croppone, la post così così mi ha indotto a pensare che i soggetti fossero stati incollati, sono talmente in contrasto rispetto allo sfondo... Oltre a questo aver clonato il filo che sosteneva il soggetto di destra provoca una posa di quest'ultimo non naturale, nel senso che un Martin pescatore in sospensione in quel modo è "quasi" impossibile. A mio parere avrebbe avuto più senso mantenere il filo, la foto avrebbe avuto un tono più reale. Questo chiaramente è solo il mio parere, ognuno è libero di vederla a suo modo.

Ok Stealth admit that the photo is true, but apart from the croppone, the post so so led me to think that the subjects had been glued, are so in contrast to the background ... Besides that had cloned the wire that supported the subject of the right causes a pose of the latter is not natural in the sense that a Kingfisher suspended in that way is "almost" impossible. In my opinion it would have made more sense to keep the wire, the picture would have a more realistic tone. This of course is just my opinion, everyone is free to see it in its own way.

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sent on January 16, 2015 (16:18)


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www.juzaphoto.com/topic2.php?l=it&t=1169641
parere strettamente personale, sono sempre un pò critico di fronte ad elaborazioni così spinte. Complimenti comunque all'autore che lo ha dichiarato. Non per essere polemico ma ho la sensazione di fronte a tante foto di avifauna che gli interventi in post siano davvero pesanti.

[URL =] www.juzaphoto.com/topic2.php?l=it&t=1169641
strictly personal opinion, I'm always a bit critical in the face of such pressures processing. Congratulations however that the author said. Not to be argumentative, but I have a feeling in front of so many photos of birds that interventions in post are really heavy.

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sent on January 16, 2015 (16:29)


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Il risultato è comunque ottenuto a seguito di uno stravolgente intervento di post-produzione e pertanto andrebbe postato nella galleria "Photo-art".
A parte questo, questo genere di scatti o sono perfetti o rimangono dei pastrocchi che nulla hanno a vedere con la fotografia naturalistica. (I.M.H.O.)
Personalmente, non mi piace.

Momo

The result is still obtained following a shocking intervention in post-production, and therefore should be posted in the gallery "Photo-art".
Apart from that, this kind of shots or are perfect or remain the pastrocchi that have nothing to do with the nature photography. (IMHO)
Personally, I do not like.

Momo

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sent on January 16, 2015 (16:34)


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Concordo quasi totalmente con quanto sostiene Pmaffio nel suo link: di fatto non uso praticamente mai Photoshop ma Ligthroom, salvo in casi eccezionali come questo, in cui a mio parere i fili avrebbero disturbato troppo "l'occhio" di chi legge la foto.
Concordo infine col suggerimento di Federico riguardo il mantenimento del filo.
Grazie a tutti.

Ciao

I agree almost entirely with the contention in his Pmaffio link: in fact I do not use Photoshop but virtually never Ligthroom, save in exceptional cases such as this, in which I think the wires would have disturbed too much "eye" of those who read the photo.
Finally, I agree with the suggestion of Frederick regarding the maintenance of the wire.
Thank you all.

Hello

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sent on February 13, 2015 (16:06)


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Bellissima! Complimenti, Antonio

Beautiful! Congratulations, Antonio

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sent on February 13, 2015 (17:57)


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Eeeek!!!Eeeek!!!fantastico!!

wow! wow! fantastic !!

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sent on March 02, 2015 (1:03)


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Avrei mantenuto il filo, per il resto ok. Ciao.

I would have retained the thread, otherwise ok. Hello.

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sent on May 27, 2015 (10:25)


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L'elaborazione spinta ma fatta così così ha un po' vanificato il risultato...peccato...ciao
Mario

The development thrust but has done well so a bit 'frustrated the result ... sin ... hello
Mario

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sent on August 07, 2015 (21:41)


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bellissima Salvo
complimenti

Except beautiful
compliments


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