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| sent on October 13, 2022 (8:05) | This comment has been translated
Great! |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (9:33) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
John and David, I catch (for work) hundreds of vipers, so I know what I'm talking about. It is very likely that the viper you observed was simply fleeing along the slope (as Daniele Cavadini also rightly points out). Sometimes they do, they let themselves slide down (maybe on the grass) to escape a potential danger. To say that the viper "attacked you downhill" is tantamount to creating a stir and feeding the legends that circulate about these animals. On the other hand most of the comments I have read on these pages demonstrate what the level of misinformation is when it comes to vipers. Giovanni e Davide, catturo (per lavoro) centinaia di vipere, quindi so di cosa parlo. E' molto probabile che la vipera che hai osservato stesse semplicemente fuggendo lungo il pendio (come fa notare giustamente anche Daniele Cavadini). A volte lo fanno, si lasciano scivolare in basso (magari sull'erba) per sfuggire a un potenziale pericolo. Dire che la vipera ti "ha attaccato in discesa libera" equivale a creare scalpore e alimentare le leggende che circolano su questi animali. D'altra parte la maggior parte dei commenti che ho letto su queste pagine dimostrano quale sia il livello di disinformazione quando si parla di vipere. |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (11:55) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Splendid capture for light colors and sharpness of the subject, congratulations for the well-deserved EP and for the steady hand despite the fright. Hello Roberto Splendida cattura per luce colori e nitidezza del soggetto, complimenti per il meritatissimo EP e per la mano ferma nonostante lo spavento. Ciao Roberto |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (13:12) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
As I read I thought I was there. Congratulations Mentre leggevo pensavo di essere lì. Complimenti |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (13:52) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Beautiful photo and story. You are an amazing couple. Congratulations to both, excellent teamwork in your shots. Greetings ;-) Bellissima foto e racconto. Siete una coppia strepitosa. Complimenti a entrambi, eccellente gioco di squadra nei vostri scatti. Un saluto |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (14:19) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Beautiful detailed close-up! Congratulations for this shot dear John and David. A big hello and good evening, Nadia Bellissimo primo piano dettagliato! Complimenti per questo scatto caro Giovanni e Davide. Un grande ciao e buona serata, Nadia |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (15:04) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
A recognition more than deserved!!! Applause Un riconoscimento più che meritato!!! Applausi |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (15:13) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I'm in a bad period and I'm necessarily absent from the forum but I congratulate you for the right recognition. Bye gios ;-) Sto in un brutto periodo e sono giocoforza assente dal forum ma mi complimento per il giusto riconoscimento. Bye gios |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (17:47) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Fantastic recovery, sincere congratulations! :-or Enrico Fantastica ripresa, sinceri complimenti! Enrico |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (21:21) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Ok Atrox, then I agree with you, anyway she gave me a blow because she was determined and very nervous. In the end I am used to vipers because in the mountains I find them, but, never seen a behavior like the two nervous that I found Gios, wow I hope it is nothing serious, do not worry about the passages, you are not obliged. I wish you a sea of health and beautiful things, see you soon, hello THANK YOU friends Juzzini for the very kind passage and also for the time you have dedicated to this shot Simone - Roberto - Mary - Marcello - Atrox - Roberto - Stefano - Tonycar - Nadia - Andrea - Gios - Enrico THANK YOU, HELLO, good night Ok Atrox, allora ti do ragione, comunque a me ha fatto venire un colpo perché era decisa e molto nervosa. Alla fine ci sono abituato alle vipere perché in montagna ne trovo, ma, mai visto un comportamento come le due nervose che ho trovato Gios, caspiterina spero sia nulla di grave, non ti preoccupare per i passaggi, non sei obbligato. Ti auguro un mare di salute e belle cose, a presto, ciao GRAZIE amici Juzzini per il gentilissimo passaggio e anche per il tempo che avete dedicato a questo scatto Simone - Roberto TR - Mary - Marcello - Atrox - Roberto - Stefano - Tonycar - Nadia - Andrea - Gios - Enrico GRAZIE, CIAO, buona nottata |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (22:39) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
The curtain rises and the nature show congratulations great work I like a lot Hello from Giancarlo and good evening Si alza il sipario e la natura da spettacolo complimenti ottimo lavoro mi piace un sacco Ciao da Giancarlo e buona serata |
| sent on October 13, 2022 (23:49) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Wonderful capture, very nice photo and thrilling your adventure ... congratulations and a salutone. Splendida cattura, molto bella la foto e da brividi la tua avventura...complimenti e un salutone. |
| sent on October 14, 2022 (15:32) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
magnificent photo compliments magnifica foto complimenti |
| sent on October 14, 2022 (21:48) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
THANK YOU friends Juzzini, you are always immensely GOOD THANKS Giancarlo - Dylan - Gianpientro GENTILISSIMI, CIAO, have a good weekend GRAZIE amici Juzzini, siete sempre immensamente BUONI GRAZIE Giancarlo - Dylan - Gianpientro GENTILISSIMI, CIAO, buon weekend |
| sent on October 15, 2022 (7:56) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Hello John and David. I'm glad you've changed your opinion a bit. Vipers, like other snakes, adopt defensive strategies that often surprise us and that we interpret as aggressive behavior, while it is pure defense (for reasons of survival!). As the great herpetologist Clifford Pope said, snakes are first of all cowards (because they flee in the face of danger!), then "bluffers" (they try to impress us), and only at the end of the warriors (if there are no alternatives, it is clear that they will try to "fight" to save their lives). Then I agree with you that the individual a little "crazy" can always happen. And berus are rather nervous vipers... Greetings! Ciao Giovanni e Davide. Sono contento che tu abbia un po' mutato la tua opinione. Le vipere, come gli altri serpenti, adottano strategie difensive che spesso ci sorprendono e che noi interpretiamo come comportamenti aggressivi, mentre si tratta di pura difesa (per questioni di sopravvivenza!). Come diceva il grande erpetologo Clifford Pope, i serpenti sono prima di tutto dei codardi (perché fuggono davanti a un pericolo!), poi dei "bluffers" (cercano di impressionarci), e solo alla fine dei guerrieri (se non ci sono alternative, è chiaro che cercheranno di "combattere" per salvare la propria vita). Poi sono d'accordo con te che l'individuo un po' "matto" può sempre capitare. E le berus sono vipere piuttosto nervose... Un saluto! |
| sent on October 15, 2022 (15:08) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Well done Giovanni and Davide! If you love these animals (from your choices you would say yes) I hope that your photos and the story that accompanies them, sometimes more effective in communicating the photos themselves, contribute to knowledge, respect and conservation. Leveraging and exacerbating fears or phobias that are the result of imagination alone do not go in this direction. Proof of this are the many comments of the visitors of this site that I read. Bravi Giovanni e Davide! Se amate questi animali (dalle vostre scelte si direbbe proprio di si) mi auspico che le vostre foto e il racconto che le accompagna, a volte più efficace nella comunicazione delle foto stesse, contribuiscano alla conoscenza, il rispetto e la conservazione. Far leva ed esasperare paure o fobie frutto solo dell'immaginazione non vanno certo in questa direzione. Prova ne sono i tanti commenti dei frequentatori di questo sito che leggo. |
| sent on October 15, 2022 (17:24) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Have a good weekend Giovanni and Davide and congratulations for the excellent realization. Buon fine settimana Giovanni e Davide e complimenti per l'ottima realizzazione. |
| sent on October 16, 2022 (20:31) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
This shot I had missed, as always excellent shots well made of the first order very good as always hello Roberto Questo scatto mi era sfuggito ,come sempre ottimi scatto ben realizzati di primo ordine bravissimi come sempre ciao Roberto |
| sent on October 17, 2022 (17:37) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
A spectacular image but in tune with nature as usual of John and David, fantastic subject blurred and colors, great compliments and saludos caros, giuseppe Un'immagine spettacolare ma in sintonia con la natura come solito di Giovanni e Davide, fantastico il soggetto lo sfuocato e i colori, grandissimi complimenti e saludos caros, giuseppe |
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