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l '"Harp" Calatrava Valencia sent on September 30, 2013 (11:03) by Flaber70. 199 comments, 12871 views.

, 1/400 f/16.0, ISO 200, hand held. Valencia, Spain.

#BiancoeNero #BlackAndWhite



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sent on May 02, 2014 (17:26)


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grazie Sanja!!:-P:-P:-P


Sanja thanks! :-P:-P:-P

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sent on May 02, 2014 (17:46)


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Bellissimo scatto
Ciao marco

Beautiful shot
Hello Mark

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sent on May 02, 2014 (17:59)


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grazie Marco!!
mi fa molto piacere che ti sia piaciuta!!

ciao
Flavio

thanks Mark!
I am very pleased that you enjoyed!

hello
Flavio

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sent on May 02, 2014 (20:33)


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Volevo dire semplicemente che le due fotografie, la tua e quella di Alvi, appartengono allo stesso genere. A prescindere dall'ora del giorno in cui sono state scattate.
E un genere che a me piace molto, giusto per sgombrare il campo da fuorvianti equivoci.
L'appunto che ti sollevavo era giusto sul fatto che lo sfondo - sto parlando della tua fotografia - non è omogeneo. E una eventualità del genere, purtroppo e sopratutto quando c'è in gioco il nero profondo, inficia non poco la qualità globale dell'immagine.
Tolta di mezzo la questione rumore, mi sembra più che evidente, resta probabilmente la questione di un qualcosa di strano avvenuto in fase di post produzione.
Magari ora mi scarico la foto e cerco di intervenire in modo che lo sfondo risulti omogeneo o come dovrebbe essere.

I meant simply that the two photographs, and that of your Alvi, belong to the same genus. Regardless of the time of day in which they were taken.
It's a genre that I really like, just to clear up misunderstandings misleading.
The fact that I was lifted right on the fact that the background - I'm talking about your photography - it is not homogeneous. And such an eventuality, unfortunately, and especially when there is deep black in the game, not just affect the overall quality of the image.
Done away with the noise issue, it seems more than obvious, probably remains the question of something strange happened in the post-production stage.
Maybe now I download the photo and try to intervene so that the background is homogeneous or as it should be.

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sent on May 02, 2014 (20:58)


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Lavorando molto grossolanamente ho ottenuto più o meno - molto meno che più data la velocità nell'intervento - ciò che intendevo.
Ora dal confronto capirai quel che intendevo.

www.flickr.com/photos/102913493@N05/14087538551/

Ciao.

p.s.: ovviamente bisognava lavorare anche in mezzo ai cavi ma il tempo...

Working very roughly I got more or less - far less than most given the speed intervention - what I meant.
Now you will understand what I meant by the comparison.

www.flickr.com/photos/102913493 @ N05/14087538551 /

Hello.

ps: of course you had to work even in the midst of the cables but time ...

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sent on May 02, 2014 (21:03)


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ora ho capito!! e ti ringrazio veramente tanto per il tempo che mi hai dedicato..
effettivamente ora che nella tua versione hai eliminato quella sorta di aloni grigiastri (o nero scolorito...) il contrasto con la struttura è netto, ben definito, nitido e pulito.
l'immagine è sicuramente più godibile
GRAZIE!!
ciao
Flavio

now I understand! and I thank you very much for the time you gave me ..
actually now that you deleted in your version that sort of gray halo (black or discolored ...) contrast with the structure is clear, well-defined, clear and clean.
the image is definitely more enjoyable
THANK YOU!
hello
Flavio

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sent on May 02, 2014 (21:40)


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Il n'y a pas de quoi!;-)


The n'y a pas de quoi! ;-)

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sent on May 02, 2014 (23:51)


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la prospettiva di questa foto è eccezionale, la scelta del b&w altrettanto.
perfetta
complimenti davvero
Mirko

the perspective of this photo is exceptional, the choice of b & w as well.
perfect
really compliments
Mirko

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sent on May 03, 2014 (8:42)


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ciao Mirko
ti ringrazio per il passaggio e generoso apprezzamento!! mi fa molto piacere SorrisoSorriso

ciao
Flavio

hello Mirko
I thank you for your passage and generous appreciation! I am very pleased :-) :-)

hello
Flavio

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sent on May 19, 2014 (12:07)


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Ciao Flavio, ti rinnovo i complimenti anche qui! Sorriso Davvero fantastica! Sorriso
Ciao
Umberto

Hello Flavio, you renew the compliments here! :-) Really fantastic! :-)
Hello
Umberto

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sent on May 19, 2014 (12:59)


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ciao Umberto:-P:-P
sono contentissimo che ti sia piaciuta tanto.. ti ringrazio per l'apprezzamento e complimenti
ciao
Flavio

hello Umberto:-P:-P
I'm delighted that you enjoyed so much .. thank you for the appreciation and compliments
hello
Flavio

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sent on June 06, 2014 (13:35)


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parto da questa.
scatto molto bello e interessante,come del resto tt le strutture di questo architetto,ormai nn ci sono più le pellicole altrimenti unite l'una con l'altra farebbero almeno 2 volte il giro del mondo....

l'accentuare l'effetto grafico fa perdere parte della materia di cui è composta l'opera,detto questo ti dico stai attento ai tagli da effettuare in post, hai ciccato l'angolo di sx per pochissimo, se la guardi su fondo bianco lo noterai molto di più,mi piace l'inserimento del triangolo a dx come elemento di rottura destabilizzante,ma è troppo poco e si collega mld alla struttura,manca quel pezzettino fra il bianco e il grigio, quel triangolino millimetrico che forse solo io vedo, ma che fa si che l'intruso sia partecipe alla scena.
se le cose si vedono con occhi diversi dai propri ci si accorge degli errori e si migliora.

bella la distribuzione delle masse nel frame, scatto notturno?no dal tempo,come mai quel cielo nero nero?

ciao
maurizio


I start with this.
very nice and interesting shot, like tt structures of this architect, nn now there are more films otherwise combined with each other would at least 2 times around the world ....

accentuate the effect of the graph does lose some of the material it is made of the work, that being said I'll tell you watch out for cuts to be made in post, you have clicked the left corner for very little, if you look on the white background you'll see a lot more, I like the inclusion of a right triangle as a destabilizing element breaking, but it is too little and connects bn to the structure, it lacks that little bit between the white and the gray triangle that perhaps only a millimeter that I see, but that means that the intruder is party to the scene.
if you see things with different eyes, we realize from their mistakes andimproves.

fine the distribution of masses in the frame, click night? no time, how come the dark sky?

hello
maurizio

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sent on June 06, 2014 (14:12)


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ciao Maurizio
grazie per il passaggio!!
la tua dettagliata analisi non fa un piega... su tutte e due gli angoli... sx e dx.. il triangolino che manca, ora che me lo fai notare, effettivamente avrebbe completato la linea diagonale discendente con quella ascendente facendo da raccordo fra le scale di grigio!!SorrySorry
lo scatto è in pieno giorno forse proprio a cavallo delle 12.00 circa e il cielo era di un blu limpidissimo senza alcuna nube... volevo un bn forte e contrastato, ed ho abbassato la luminosità totale fino ad ottenere un nero nero e la struttura bianca protagonista assoluta..
sono contento che almeno in parte ti sia piaciuta!
ciao
Flavio


hello Maurizio
thanks for the ride!
Your detailed analysis is not a fold ... on both the left and right corners ... .. the triangle is missing, now that you mention it, actually would have completed the diagonal line descending ascending doing with that from fitting between shades of gray! :-| :-|
shooting in broad daylight is perhaps just riding around 12.00 and the sky was crystal clear blue without a cloud ... I wanted bn strong and contrasted, and I lowered the brightness until you get a total black black and white frame protagonist ..
I'm glad that at least part of you enjoyed!
hello
Flavio

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sent on June 06, 2014 (14:32)


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non è che nn mi piaccia sarei incoerente a dire che è una foto da cestino, solo ti ho evidenziato quello che ci vedo io di difetto, senza ovviamente voler sminuire l'impegno e il lavoro che ognuno fa nelle proprie possibilità e che io rispetto sempre molto qualunque esso sia.
un buon inizio ma presto guarderai all'architettura con occhi diversi e parecchie foto ti sembreranno sbagliate nella forma,anche delle tua, e dirai sorridendo guarda che foto mi sembravano pure belle!!!
ciao

not that I like nn would be inconsistent to say that it is a photo from the trash, I just highlighted what I see there is defective, obviously without wishing to belittle the efforts and the work that everyone does in their own ability and I always respect much whatever it is.
a good start but soon you will look with different eyes to architecture and several pictures will seem wrong in form, even of yours, smile and say, look at that photo seemed too beautiful!
hello

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sent on June 06, 2014 (14:52)


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" ti ho evidenziato quello che ci vedo io di difetto" .. e io ti ringrazio ancora... è solo grazie alle critiche costruttive e suggerimenti come questi che poco alla volta si acquisiscono maggiori nozioni e... "occhio" !!
ciao
Flavio



I have highlighted what I see I defect
.. and I thank you ... yet it is only thanks to constructive criticism and suggestions like these that little by little you will acquire more knowledge and ... " eye "!
hello
Flavio


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sent on June 24, 2014 (21:19)


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Un capolavoro!

A masterpiece!

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sent on June 25, 2014 (9:58)


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grazie Jooferr
esagerato!! troppo generoso:-P:-P

ciao
Flavio

thanks Jooferr
exaggerated! too generous:-P:-P

hello
Flavio

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sent on September 08, 2014 (16:16)


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mastodontica. Complimenti per la foto ed il bianco e nero. mi pia e molto

mammoth. Congratulations for the photo and the black and white. I very pious and

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sent on September 08, 2014 (17:00)


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ti ringrazio tanto Cosimo per il tuo passaggio e commento positivo! sono contento che ti sia piaciuta questa affascinante struttura
ciao
Flavio

Cosimo I thank you so much for your positive comment and pass! I'm glad you enjoyed this charming guest
hello
Flavio

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sent on September 10, 2014 (9:59)


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Molto bella!
Mi piacciono la composizione che tende quasi all'astrazione e il forte contrasto con il cielo quasi nero.
Complimenti.

Ciao
Luca

Very nice!
I like the composition which tends almost to abstraction and the stark contrast with the sky almost black.
Compliments.

Hello
Luca


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