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A Ser Ciappelletto...

Covid, tra autarchia ed archivi

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A Ser Ciappelletto sent on May 18, 2020 (17:29) by Paolo P. 108 comments, 2962 views. [retina]

at 90mm, 1/60 f/8.0, ISO 320, tripod.

Forse, avessi studiato medicina, me ne sarei fatto una ragione. Il fatto è che la mascherina proprio non aggiunge nulla di buono alla mia immagine. Pur lontano da qualsivoglia narcisismo, trovo che il mio aspetto sia, tutto sommato, migliore al naturale. Allora, perché l'acquisto della confezione da 50 pezzi…..? Per obbligo, evidentemente. E' il motivo per cui manderò lo scontrino in Cina con richiesta di questo primo rimborso avendo certezza di non essere in alcun modo corresponsabile circa l'operato degli incapaci pasticcioni di Wuhan che, invece, un qualche scellerato responsabile dovrebbero averlo. Quegli stessi responsabili che a fine 2019 hanno secretato esistenza e pericolosità del Covid 19 così come fecero con la SARS (a quei tempi vivevo a Beijing e ne ebbi esperienza diretta). Julian Reichelt (non scrive su Juza, è il direttore di “Bild”) ha la mia stessa opinione e mi pare che possa scrivere liberamente fruendo di “angeliche” protezioni derivanti da una forza economica che può permettersi onesto realismo. Ora sono pure infastidito da notizie di dozzinale demagogia, provenienti dal far-east circa le operazioni in corso per la ricostruzione di un'immagine più che immacolata di chi porta sulle spalle, con sprezzante leggerezza, l'effettiva responsabilità di quanto accaduto. Ma allora anche la Santificazione dopo aver mandato il mondo al mertricio ? Non è il caso. Per quello, alla totale perversione occorre aggiungere l'astuzia, l'ironia e l'intelligenza di Ser Ciappelletto. Loro, nel far-east, si mettessero la mascherina, non è molto ma ci guadagna l'estetica. "Il nostro vaccino sarà bene pubblico mondiale" Caro ser Ciappelletto, se avessi il c... come la tua faccia mi sottoporrei ad intervento di chirurgia plastica per la vergogna.



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sent on May 24, 2020 (1:31) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Hello Paul and hello everyone, in giving you the good Sunday I make you share what I forgot : what made us
mid-December beppe cricket, deliberately in tiny, with the mask ?
Photos and article reported by Il Giornale

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sent on May 24, 2020 (1:33) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Dear Arrigo, I'd like to give you a logical explanation.
I don't have it.
Forse, I say perhaps, asked for advice or were given to him by the one who was in China in mid-November. MrGreen :-D

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sent on May 24, 2020 (9:06) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)


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sent on May 24, 2020 (9:36) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)


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sent on May 24, 2020 (10:13) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)


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sent on May 24, 2020 (10:24) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Dearest Viola, can I give you some? What scientific value did it have at the beginning of the year to argue "this is a trivial influence"? What certain evidence did the distinguished and successful collaborators of the institutions have in January to make such statements? Why so much inertia in taking the first precautions? Why do the "YES WE WORK" commercials?
I'm just questions I don't want to fuel controversy.
The scientific method as I have been taught is based on evidence and the burden of proof does not apply only to some who have ideas and opinions other than the mainstream and for others not, in my opinion.

avatarsenior
sent on May 24, 2020 (10:49) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Fabio, this is precisely the point: it is who advances a theory contrary to the "institutional mainstream" (and, let me, already this definition of yours denotes a certain distrust towards what I would personally simply call "scientific truth so far shared"), and only him, to have the burden of proof. If we want, it works like this even in courtrooms (and fortunately!), otherwise you could be denounced by the first one who passes for plotting to his detriment and hear you say: now prove to me that you did not!
Yedy you're going to read it, I'll bring you the link to an interesting article
https://www.wired.it/scienza/lab/2014/02/28/guida-metodo-scientifico/
A greeting to everyone!

avatarsenior
sent on May 24, 2020 (11:01) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Well Viola just said a word and got an idea of the kind of person I am. You're talking about scientific truth so far. And what evidence to support there is in this shared truth? Did you read what I wrote about the burden of proof or not? But if I ask for evidence to support january's claims, I immediately become a conspirator, not a person who takes the scientific method seriously. Clarified now?
I don't think the nearly 33,000 people who died from this "banal flu" think like you. We owe them the truth. I know that the models adopted on the expected results have yielded very different results from the facts. And if that is the case then the model is wrong and another one must be found. This is the scientific method.

avatarsenior
sent on May 24, 2020 (11:24) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

No Fabio, you see: just because I don't think about risky inductions, I didn't get any idea of the "kind of person" you are. We're focusing on the object: I never talked about trivial flu, it was just debating the natural origin or not of the virus, okay? Well, official science, or institutional mainstream, call it whatever you want, agrees that it's natural. Everyone except Montagnier. He, or those who want to follow him, must prove otherwise, not simply say that they can do it. That's it.
The rest has nothing to do with it: it is obvious that those who have underestimated the problem have made a mistake, but it is another matter, let us not confuse them.
If you want to know, I live in a region hard hit by the virus, people I knew are gone and that saddens me. I think that in their memory we also need to stick to the facts.

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sent on May 24, 2020 (11:33) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Well Viola I understand your point of view I do not want to monopolize and I gladly leave any space to others. I just point out that as a technician (I don't call myself a scientist) underestimation I learned that it doesn't exist. The Morandi Bridge falls for easily conceivable reasons, known to most and demonstrable with non-destructive methods of analysis. But I assure you that I know the flourish of technical engineers and Professors. of the construction technique that would have signed an appraisal of establishment even just 5 seconds before the collapse.
I conclude here apologising to Paul, to Viola and to all the others I may have upset with my speech.
I will continue to read your speeches with respectful silence.

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sent on May 24, 2020 (11:54) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Good morning!
I read all the speeches with interest. For what it's worth, I 100% subscribe to Viola's arguments, I couldn't have put them out better.
It is true that there may be areas of shadow in the "official" versions, both in history and in science, but suspicions must be proven. It is also true that there were scientists opposed by their colleagues but, in the end, if they were right, this emerged, and that is what will happen in the future.
Science proceeds through trial and error, these alas are not eliminateable, but they are not said to be due to the will to hide (or not see) the truth for other interests. We also need some confidence, otherwise progress ends.
Buy Sunday to all!
Michele

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sent on May 24, 2020 (14:49) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

I wanted to stay at the window but reading takes me a cold so I return .
Caro Miche everything that science discovers before you get to you passes by the politician on duty who applies the necessary reviews making sure that news and newspapers, all partisan, hide your due.
Tho whatever you believe are ours are in agreement with others for whom so much-desired progress
he is guided and you will get a part that will come to you from those who decide .
Yes, progress is driven, he creates busines, he has to create it, and it won't be for you....

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sent on May 24, 2020 (16:25) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)


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sent on May 24, 2020 (18:03) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

I came back Miche but only to say, and not only to you, that I miss Caligula very much these days
think that made his horse Senator :-P

avatarsenior
sent on May 24, 2020 (18:46) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Arrigo, do you mean Caligula's horse wouldn't go out of his way into our senate? We can agree on this :-)

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sent on May 25, 2020 (21:21) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)


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sent on May 25, 2020 (21:35) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

The story is told by the winners, many truths of the moment over time have proved to be lies. Maybe we're at a modern opium war? Have a good evening

avatarsenior
sent on May 25, 2020 (22:38) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Alejandro, I invite you to listen to this interesting interview with Professor. Alessandro Barbero who I was just following just now (from 19:08 to 22:40)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ9hTBCqIdk
A greeting

avatarsenior
sent on May 25, 2020 (23:06) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Thank you Viola for the interesting interview, tomorrow I will watch it in full, he claims that the story is not written by the winners, it can be true in a truly democratic system but few countries in the world can boast this. I grew up under a dictatorship and I know something about it. Then he talks about the economy that dominates politics, and it's always been like this. In fact, to give you an example the most important reason for the opium war was purely economic. The problem that much of the truth "maybe" comes long after. A greeting

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sent on May 26, 2020 (0:01) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)





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