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sent on January 10, 2014 (12:48)


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TristeTristeTriste

:-( :-( :-(

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sent on January 10, 2014 (13:19)


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Grazie a tutti per aver condiviso questa triste storia da cui sicuramente si può trarre insegnamento. Che le agenzie di viaggio la smettano di propagandare i safari come fossero picnic e che chi decide di affrontare un'esperienza del genere lo faccia in maniera responsabile. La conoscenza degli animali, delle loro abitudini e del loro comportamento renderanno più interessante il safari e molto ma molto più belle le foto.

Thanks to all of you for sharing this sad story from which you can definitely learn from. That travel agencies should stop to propagate the safari as they picnic and that those who decide to tackle such an experience to do so in a responsible manner. The knowledge of the animals, their habits and their behavior make it more interesting safaris and much, much more beautiful photos.

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sent on January 10, 2014 (13:35)


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Ben detto!

Well said!

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sent on January 12, 2014 (13:00)


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Confesso che dopo tanti anni e tante ma proprio tante immagini le foto che cerco sono proprio queste, non certo per "sensazionalismo fotografico" ma solo e unicamente per documentare. Prossimi obiettivi elefanti e rinoceronti uccisi dai bracconieri per il commercio schifoso di zanne e corni. Ricordo quando era relativamente semplice vedere nel Masai Mara il rinoceronte nero, ormai purtroppo sempre più raro e fortemente a rischio di estinzione. Triste

I confess that after so many years and so many images but just as many photos as you try it is these, not for "sensationalism photo" but only and only to document. Upcoming goals elephants and rhinos killed by poachers for tusks and horns lousy trade. I remember when it was relatively easy to see the black rhinoceros in the Masai Mara, now sadly increasingly rare and highly endangered. :-(

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sent on January 12, 2014 (13:25)


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grande schifezza ..cos'altro dire se non questo! il potere dei foglietti verdi.....

big crap .. what else to say except this! the power of the green sheets .....

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sent on January 12, 2014 (15:23)


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condivido a piano Pmaffio.....TristeTristeTristeConfuso

I share a flat Pmaffio ..... :-( :-( :-(: fconfuso:

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sent on January 12, 2014 (16:15)


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la madre degli × è sempre incinta....


the mother of idiots is always pregnant ....

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sent on January 12, 2014 (16:26)


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" Provengo dalla fotografia subacquea ma nel 2000 ho smesso di immergermi dopo aver constatato come sedicenti sub avevano ridotto la barriera corallina a furia di pinnate"

Scusa l'ignoranza pmaffio mi puoi spiegare questo fatto? le immersioni anche senza avere contatto fisico con la barriera la danneggiano? forse ho capito male? Confuso

Comunque tanta rabbia per i tuo racconto, credo che basterebbe un po' di informazione infondo... Non voglio credere che se gli occupanti della jeep avessero saputo il risvolto delle loro azioni lo avrebbero fatto lo stesso...

I come from underwater photography in 2000 but I stopped after finding immerse myself as self-styled sub had reduced coral reef pinnate fury


Excuse the ignorance pmaffio I can explain this fact? diving even without physical contact with the barrier the damage? maybe I misunderstood? : Fconfuso:

However, a lot of anger for your story, I think a liitle bit 'of information to instill ... I do not want to believe that if the occupants of the jeep they knew the implication of their actions would have done the same ...

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sent on January 12, 2014 (17:05)


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TristeConfusoTristeEeeek!!!TristeEeeek!!!

:-(: Fconfuso :: - (:-( wow! wow!

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sent on January 12, 2014 (17:29)


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" le immersioni anche senza avere contatto fisico con la barriera la danneggiano?" No, le persone senza la dovuta esperienza/conoscenza dell'attrezzatura e degli aspetti teorici la danneggiano...un esempio su tutti: per imparare ad ottenere un buon assetto sott'acqua (indispensabile, specialmente se ci si immerge vicino a una barriera) occorrono decine(se non centinaia) di immersioni alle spalle dove si acquisisce feeling con il mondo acquatico...per farla breve e non andare troppo fuori tema, la verità è che molti se ne fregano e le conseguenze sono spesso disastrose, in particolare in quei luoghi inflazionati notevolmente dal turismo

Sono assolutamente favorevole alle cosiddetta "foto denuncia" e ti ringrazio per averla postata
Un saluto

diving even without physical contact with the barrier the damage?
No, people without the proper experience / knowledge of the theoretical aspects of the equipment and the damage ... one example: to learn to get a good set under water (essential, especially if you dive near a barrier) takes tens (if not hundreds) of diving behind where one acquires feeling with the aquatic world ... in short and not go too far out theme, the truth is that many do not care, and the consequences are often disastrous, especially in those places inflated greatly from tourism

I am absolutely in favor of the alleged "complaint" and I thank you for having posted
A greeting

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sent on January 12, 2014 (17:59)


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Marco Palumbo la causa dell'estinzione di parecchie specie è l'interruzione della catena alimentare. Le barriere coralline in quanto esseri animali, ne fanno parte. Distruggendola si toglie il cibo ad alcuni pesci di piccola taglia che cessano di esistere, sparendo i pesci di piccola taglia succede poi a quelli di taglia media e così via sino agli squali che sono al vertice della catena. L'interruzione della catena alimentare si può altrettanto causare con la distruzione dei vegetali, l'inquinamento dei fiumi o il disboscamento, si parte sempre dal basso, se privi di cibo gli insetti e i roditori spariranno gli uccelli e i piccoli mammiferi e così via sino al vertice della catena terrestre. Devo anche contraddirti sulla tua ultima affermazione, in linea di principio hai ragione e spesso manca l'informazione, però credimi perché li ho visti all'opera e sto parlando di fotografi o foto amatori con cotanta attrezzatura che vogliono assolutamente fare la foto impossibile, e allora, nonostante i divieti e i pericoli, si corrompe il driver a suon di dollari perché avvicini il più possibile il soggetto.

Marco Palumbo the cause of the extinction of several species is the interruption of the food chain. The coral reefs as living animals, belong to it. Destroying the food is removed to some small fish that have ceased to exist, vanishing the small fish happens then to those of medium size and so on until the sharks are at the top of the chain. The interruption of the food chain can also cause the destruction of the plants, the pollution of rivers and deforestation, we always start from the bottom, if deprived of food insects and rodents will disappear birds and small mammals, and so on until the apex of the Earth's atmosphere. I also have to contradict you on your last statement, in principle you are right and there is often no information, however, because believe me I've seen them at work and I'm talking about photographers or photo enthusiasts withso great outfit that they want absolutely impossible to make the photo, and then, in spite of prohibitions and threats, it corrupts the driver to the sound of dollars because as close as possible to the subject.

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sent on January 12, 2014 (18:21)


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Vi ringrazio della spiegazione, questo fortunatamente già lo sapevo, temevo si recassero danni anche con il solo immergersi.

" Devo anche contraddirti sulla tua ultima affermazione, in linea di principio hai ragione e spesso manca l'informazione, però credimi perché li ho visti all'opera e sto parlando di fotografi o foto amatori con cotanta attrezzatura che vogliono assolutamente fare la foto impossibile, e allora, nonostante i divieti e i pericoli, si corrompe il driver a suon di dollari perché avvicini il più possibile il soggetto."

E questo è ancora peggio? mi domando dove si debba arrivare per capire che stiamo esagerando con il menefreghismo nei confronti di ciò che ci circonda (e ci permette la vita)

I thank you for explanation, luckily I already knew this, I was afraid you were marked damage even with just the dive.

I also have to contradict you on your last statement, in principle you are right and there is often no information, however, because believe me I've seen them at work and I'm talking about with such great photographers or photo enthusiasts who want to absolutely make the outfit photo impossible, and then, in spite of prohibitions and threats, it corrupts the driver to the sound of dollars because as close as possible to the subject.


And this is even worse? I wonder where you should get to understand that we are exaggerating with the uncaring attitude towards what surrounds us (and allows us to life)

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sent on January 13, 2014 (19:30)


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mi vergogno di essere della stessa specie... meriterebbero di essere trascinati con una corda dietro alle jeep finchè non son buoni per i leoni.. che peccato...

I am ashamed to be of the same species ... deserve to be dragged by a rope behind the jeep until they are good for lions .. what a pity ...

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sent on January 13, 2014 (20:29)


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Ma si chiamano fotografi queste persone??????? Io ho un'altro termine x classificarli, come quella massa di brava gente che nel suo piccolo si comporta allo stesso modo qui da noi....... I grandi FOTOGRAFI NATURALISTI, che gente.......

But these people are called photographers???? I have another term to classify x as the mass of good people in his small behaves in the same way over here ....... The great PHOTOGRAPHERS NATURALISTS that people .......

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sent on February 14, 2015 (18:49)


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no comment....SorrySorryEeeek!!!
Che tristezza....

no comment ....: - |: - | wow!
How sad ....

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sent on February 14, 2015 (20:31)


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Non ho paroleTriste
Condivido in pieno il tuo pensiero.
Spero che questo documento faccia riflettere moltiTriste
PRIMA DI QUALSIASI FOTO,VIENE IL RISPETTO.
Ciao,Nicolò

I have no words:-(
I fully share your thoughts.
I hope that this document will make people think a lot:-(
BEFORE ANY PHOTOS, IS THE RESPECT.
Hello, Nicholas

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sent on February 14, 2015 (21:28)


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Quoto e condivido in pieno TristeConfuso

Quoto and fully share:-(: fconfuso:

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sent on February 14, 2015 (21:50)


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Condivido tutto ciò che hai detto, purtroppo anche nel nostro piccolo qui da noi succede lo stesso, spero che veda questa scena chi si sente offeso e si risenta se non vengono divulgati luoghi dove poter fotografare in libertà assoluta, ecco uno dei motivi.

I agree with everything you said, unfortunately, in our small over here happens the same, I hope you see this scene who feels offended and affected if they are not disclosed places to photograph in absolute freedom, that's one of the reasons.

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sent on February 14, 2015 (22:09)


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E' già stato detto tutto, non posso far altro che prendere atto con molta amarezza che ogni volta l'asticella della stupidità umana si abbassa sempre di più, questo dovrebbe far riflettere e come dice Franco poco sopra anche qui da noi la realtà non è molto diversa.
Hai fatto benissimo a postarla come foto denuncia e ritengo che dovrebbe avere maggiore visibilità magari in home page, nel mare di foto presenti sul sito finirà presto nel dimenticatoio mentre dovrebbe essere un esempio di cosa non si deve fare anche e sopratutto per tutti coloro che affrontano questo tipo di viaggi pensando di andare a visitare uno zoo senza sbarre.Confuso

It ''s all been said, I can not help but take note with great sadness that every time the bar of human stupidity is lowered more and more, this should give pause and says Franco just above even here the reality is not very different.
You have done well to post it as a photo report and I think that maybe should have more visibility on the home page, in the sea of ??photos on the site will soon be forgotten and should be an example of what not to do also and especially to all those who face this type of travel planning to go visit a zoo without bars.: fconfuso:

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sent on February 14, 2015 (22:15)


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bravo ben fatto,quando serve la fotografia è anche un mezzo efficente per...denunciare,portare a conoscenza dei fatti che accadono nei luoghi e nelle situazioni di ogni angolo del mondo;-)

good well done, when you need the photograph is also a means for efficient ... denounce, to inform of events that occur in places and situations all over the world;-)


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