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The last rays...

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sent on September 22, 2013 (21:08) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

@ Landerjack
The problem is not to decide whether that is art. This means becoming a question: why Gursky is considered one of the most talented photographers in the world and there are those who are willing to pay some figures for a picture?
Then you go to look at his works, read the criticism, a good book, one gets a bit 'of photographic culture. Then maybe you'll find that in front of us opened up a world.
Even the work we are trying to get to the reflections on our photos, go in that direction.
Do not forget that the paintings of Van Gogh did not want them no and the Impressionists (today there are reproductions of Manet even in homes with lower rate of figurative culture) were considered heretics, enemies of the beautiful painting. Did not understand them anyone.
Thenmaybe Gursky will continue to not like, but it is another approach.
I have already said that modern art demands a lot to the public.
Some effort seems to me that we are already doing, your replicas (most welcome) are proof of this.
I renew to you the greetings.
Franco

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sent on September 22, 2013 (21:55) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

3E

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sent on September 22, 2013 (22:43) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Intrigued, I visited your galleries, Jeronim, you know we really do, you are very good, the owner of the material, virtuous image, visionary, genius.
This evening, I immediately a positive stimulus, I realized that maybe there is another way to take pictures (at this age :-() see if I can break the spell of the picture postcard, I put the whole .. I hope ..... ;-)

a greeting

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sent on September 22, 2013 (23:30) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Hello Franco
I want to "play down" a little 'tone (so you know very well how much I appreciate your unique footprint in the photos) it may be that my neurons give the first signs of abating but just open the photo we've seen the face of a bulldog
Should I be worried?
Guido

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sent on September 23, 2013 (1:13) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

@ Catherine Bruzzone
I completely agree that there is room for everyone. On the rest I wrote you a little 'things, I was "almost agreed", but when I sent you missed the link (I'm in Marrakech) and I lost everything! Now, in addition to being angry, I fall asleep. We will have many other opportunities to confront. With you it's always a pleasure.
Hail.
Franco

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sent on September 23, 2013 (1:17) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

@ Yago
I am very glad to have given new stimuli through my photos.
I will follow your work
I greet you with affection.
Franco

@ Parkerfly
With you as soon as I see you do the math! And you know you will be soooo soon:-D!
Are you a friend.
Hello.
Franco

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sent on September 23, 2013 (10:34) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Landerjack I think you simplify a bit 'the work of Gursky and the School of dusseldorf, for me it is necessary to evaluate the impact of Hilla and Bernd Becher on photography and evaluate everything that is born by their teachings.
Are not to my personal taste a huge fan of this school, but it is not so easy to pass judgment on the work of Gursky or Candida HFER or other photographers who follow this "current"

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sent on September 23, 2013 (11:43) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

@ Jeronim certain that we must ask ourselves if this is art, because if it were, it would be perhaps justified in the assessment of Gursky and his work. I do not find very appropriate your ongoing dialogue with painting, is another form of art that uses other means to communicate with an immense history of the photograph you, but here We trigger yet another speech, art in general , and not end up really anymore. @ Labirint, I've done some provocative questions, I will have also simplified, but honestly to this forum I'm already devoting too much time, if we start to make a discussion on the various currents, we're here all day (at night I sleep) to write, plus bring forward here would be a more detailed discussion ot, my mistake, but I instigated a criminal Jeronim, proposed me yet that picture of Gursky,on which I had already discussed months ago with a friend (for an afternoon). I do not know yet what I will dedicate to the forum, I'll post some pictures and maybe we will delete quite a lot ', with discussions on the forum I'm done. Guys I realize that I probably have to write a little 'gruff / wild, I do not want, and that the light be with you! :-)

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sent on September 23, 2013 (16:11) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

will post some pictures and maybe we will delete quite a lot ', with discussions on the forum I closed

I feel very sorry.
Guys, I realize that you probably have to write a little 'gruff / wild,

To me it is sufficient that sincere and clear. The teams, talking about the forum in general, should also express themselves more on the meaning rather than the means, oltrettutto, in this type of discussion, the lack of expression which greatly limits the expression of thought and transposition. Maybe I'm ot and I apologize. A greeting.

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sent on September 23, 2013 (21:10) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

I have looked forward to say something about this picture that Franco is not easy to interpret, or rather, I can, however, not without being presumptuous, to support a thesis, at least from my point of view.

For comparison with painting Landerjack I find nothing strange unless otherwise live the definition of art.
According to my point of view, very simplistically, to a level of expert what you create influenced by personality could be considered as art.
So according to the above definition, painting, sculpture and photography (leaving out other fields) can be called 'art'.
However Landerjack, you opened the discussion tickling and other issues would be a shame if I had to leave just discuss ;-)

But back all'immaginand: the strong impact is given by the light (light / dark) and color, the different elements, such as trees and the road, make the image full of living elements, there is life, and humanity.
But, as already mentioned by Franco same, this image would be empty if taken individually, having instead inserted into a series of lights and shadows seems glimpse, step by step, a maturity of the author, a path that will arrive at the end which is is placed, do not know the purpose of the project but I hope to see it, sooner or later, in its entirety.
Have a good trip Franco.
Sergio

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sent on September 24, 2013 (12:06) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

@ Landerjack
We were just chatting! I referred to the painting because, among the arts, is the one that has more similarities with the photograph. I could talk about music (remember the early days of rock?), Literature (Balzac vs. Bukowski) etc.. Prejudice to photography, if I quoted Minor White, for many could be difficult to understand.
For me, art becomes such when our sensitivity and our culture do make it feel like one. Then it becomes a living thing. Rely on the opinion of the critics, who decides that the photographer makes art, is another thing.
This introduces a theme that is particularly close to my heart and that, here on the forum, is as rare as a penguin equator photographic culture. The curiosity, passion, should spur us in this direction. Then we would realize that ourevaluations will go beyond the simple "I like it". This also on our photos.
It is understood, played down that photography is a field so vast and certainly not all we propose to do art!
Best wishes, hoping to find yourself and continue to discuss (maybe in another space). The idea of ??opening a school on the topic of Düsseldorf, already in my mind.
Franco


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sent on September 24, 2013 (12:12) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

@ Paul and @ Crown Sergio Cecchini
Guys, thank you very warmly for the effort you do to get out of the logic of "likes" and argued with stimulating comments. I can be a stimulus for all besides me, of course.
A warm greeting.
Franco

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sent on September 24, 2013 (12:24) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

OT

Landerjack, Catherine and Jeronim (and everyone else) ...
I think you're throwing down a conversation that is a perfect example of how they should be
communications in a forum of photography.
Our analysis highlighted that there are many and you are facing in order to make them understandable to anyone (even to me!) ...
I write because in some phrases Landerjack I seem to perceive a senseless guilt (perhaps is a term much?) Arising from expressing their thoughts. If I'm wrong, so much the better! :-D
Landerjack, the time you spend in the forum to someone is important. I do not find neither gruff nor wild.
You are doing good in this Forum, do not stop ... <br />
Thank you.

Sorry for the OT
I felt compelled to do so ... :-|
Andrea.

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sent on September 24, 2013 (12:35) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Earth, sod plowed in raking light, almost scratched a wall, dark spots and the explanation on the corner, the mouth, a road that seems to emerge from the shadows, in the context of a film of uniform color and three-dimensional, where it takes you , she decides, (I sound like already 'heard:-D) For me also lives alone, outside the project.

Pero '... you want to put a beautiful sunset ....! :-D

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sent on September 24, 2013 (13:01) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Here's my comment was related to the homogeneity, it is one thing analazzirla alone, but linked to the others you've posted to me out of place and out of the project.

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sent on September 24, 2013 (19:41) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

@ Prof Chaos
Being party to the case maybe I should not be the one to say it, but it seems to me that what you say is absolutely acceptable. Here the "like" (and also "I do not like!") Found ground for a detailed discussion which made us think beyond this single photo. It was what I hoped when I proposed to comment a photo that I knew would have raised different opinions.
Thank, once again, you and everyone else.

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sent on September 24, 2013 (19:51) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

@ Max57
Max, if you pass me your email, you infill box sunsets:-D!
Turning serious, I tell you that I too think that this picture can also stand on its own. The comments have given me much food for thought. I'll think about.
Thanks for the ride and the time you gave me.
I salute you as a friend.
Franco

@ Labirint
What you say, together with the comments of others, makes me think. Will consider closed my project where ideally apporrò the signature and will have its ultimate shape. Perhaps the correlation with the other pictures you can find on the images that I never published. Or just decide not to put it in the series.
Thank you again.
Best wishes.
Franco

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sent on September 26, 2013 (20:04) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Hello Franco
I watched and covered this' picture ..... I also read some previous comment. The reflection and 'open to a more complex analysis' on the issue of generalized leggimita' intellectual-emotional in commenting on a picture of who, unable to doubt the quality 'of the photographer techniques, we are reduced to what' (which is' l ' appearance carrier) arising from our "Detent emotional" reading of 'image. For this I do not think it is due that the photo send this emotionality 'the majority of visitors ... or maybe some of these will find a personal key that triggers a process of iteration with the image that suddenly becomes magical .. ... In example carry my experience with reading the image that initially perplexed me but curious to cover it on time ... until I saw this picture as a frame of a film therenematofotografica .... sensation and the dynamic reading of the growing light of the 'dawn that at this moment right outlines some silhouettes just indentificabili .... still behind the dark ... that will soon be' too 'it light ... Queta and 'obvious, my interpretation that makes me emotional' appreciate the pictures. So I think there is no single value given by the photographer when shooting .... but open roads of different emotional readings that give different values ??to the photos ...
Maybe the speech did not 'really clear ..... but the 'quest tribute to' image and 'praise for research in the maze out of every stereotype and therefore outside the box ...... a greeting Beppe

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sent on September 26, 2013 (22:13) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

Dear Beppe,
you say well. A photograph contains the idea of ??the photographer, the reasons that led him to realize it. The binding is very tight. Then, when the image is seen by the public ceases, in a sense, to be the author. It is as if propose different reactions and autonomous. Each one can be personalized with many different interpretations. Luigi Ghirri said that a photograph should never explain everything. In a sense, you go back again. The author says its the public's understanding (or not) and reacts autonomously: the mystery of photography remains the same.
Thanks for the ride and comment always very welcome.
A warm greeting.
Franco

avatarjunior
sent on March 13, 2016 (20:31) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)

I see a face ... it is devastating! Positively!


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