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Untitled Photo sent on September 18, 2011 (10:33) by Botty. 48 comments, 5039 views.

1/640 f/8.0, ISO 640, tripod.

Power of Nature - Nikon D300, Sigma 70-200mm Macro EX DG f/2.8 @ f/8 1/640 ISO 640 treppiede, Islanda







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user5222
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sent on November 08, 2011 (9:21)


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Ottima la composizione. Complimenti.

Excellent composition. Compliments.

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sent on November 08, 2011 (11:23)


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" @Andrea: Permettimi di dissentire. Non ritengo che questa sia la classica composizione che fanno tutti.
Dal lato pratico, tutti in genere si posizionano a ridosso della cascata mentre io ero posizionato poco dopo il parcheggio (200m ca dalla cascata), per poter comprimere i piani con il tele e rendere l'idea che volevo dare di proporzioni e di maestosità del muro d'acqua. Tant'è che ho dovuto aspettare la bellezza di 3 ore prima che si verificassero le condizioni adatte (niente turisti di mezzo, soggetto solo e "interessante"...).
Volevo uno scatto minimalista, che esaltasse il rapporto impari tra uomo e Natura in Islanda, me l'ero prefigurato, e ho voluto portarlo a casa a tutti i costi.
Mi sarebbe comunque piaciuto provare delle composizioni wide in condizioni diverse, anche di notte, ma purtroppo dormivo molto distante da lì e quindi non mi è stato possibile.
"


Grazie per la sensata spiegazione innanzitutto.
Rimane una bella foto che rende giustizia al luogo, ti dico questo perché conosco diverse persone che sono state in questa location e hanno portato a casa la stessa foto (anche Bonfadini se non erro), tutto qui ;) Basta fare una ricerca su internet per rendersi conto di ciò, poi alcune sono più belle altre meno, ma questo è un altro discorso!
Per questo ti sto dicendo la maledetta frase che odio e però a volte è reale: un classico ben eseguito! (perdonami)
La trovo una foto molto semplice da eseguire, perché le condizioni e la magnificenza della cascata te lo permettono. E' possibile scattare a qualsiasi ora del giorno in una giornata nuvolosa, una bella foto ricordo ma niente di più a mio parere.
Ho trovato qualche esempio in due secondi:

www.itwerkzsometimes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/skogafos
farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/5031466554_a7daccfcc6.jpg
4.bp.blogspot.com/_dhlzPamaFkA/SHUm5tIOzsI/AAAAAAAACvk/9bO9woRpSkE/s40
msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070525/070525_iceland_vm

Poi è chiaro che uno quando va in un posto non deve farsi influenzare da chi ha scattato prima di lui, ci mancherebbe! Magari facendo una foto del genere uno può aver pensato di aver trovato la compo definitiva, unica e irripetibile. Se poi altre centinaia di persone la provano cosa importa? Nulla! In certi posti è d'obbligo fare questi tipi di foto, sono io il primo!
Questa era una foto "da fare" e tu l'hai ben eseguita.
La mia non era una critica, era solo un punto di vista, anche a me è capitato di portare a casa la famosa "solita foto", e non ne ero soddisfatto, per questo piano piano sto cercando di discostarmi da tutto ciò
Parere personale eh ;)
Un salutone!

André

@ Andrea: Allow me to disagree. I do not think that this is the classical composition we all do.
On the practical side, all usually placed near the waterfall while I was positioned just after the car park (approx 200m from the waterfall), to compress the plans with the remote and I wanted to give you an idea of ??proportions and majesty of the wall of water. So much so that I had to wait 3 hours before the beauty of that could happen suitable conditions (no tourists in the middle, and subject only "interesting" ...).
I wanted a minimalist shot, that would befit the unequal relationship between man and nature in Iceland, I'd envisioned, and I wanted to take it home at all costs.
I would still like to try wide of the compositions under different conditions, even at night, but unfortunately I slept very far from there and then I was not possible.


Thank you for the sensible explanation first.
It remains a beautiful picture that does justice to the place, I tell youthis because I know several people who have been in this location and took home the same photo (Bonfadini even if I'm not mistaken), that's all ;) Just do a search on the internet to realize this, then some are nicer than others , but that's another story!
That's why I'm saying that I hate the damn sentence and therefore is sometimes true: a classic well done! (Forgive me)
I find a photo very simple to perform, because the conditions and the magnificence of the waterfall you allow it. E 'can be taken at any time of day on a cloudy day, a beautiful souvenir photos but nothing more in my opinion.
I found some examples in two seconds:

[URL =] www.itwerkzsometimes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/skogafos
[URL =] farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/5031466554_a7daccfcc6.jpg
[URL =] 4.bp.blogspot.com/_dhlzPamaFkA/SHUm5tIOzsI/AAAAAAAACvk/9bO9woRpSkE/s40 + (1). JPG


Then it is clear that when one goes to a place must not be influenced by those who have taken before him, God forbid! Perhaps taking a picture like this one may have thought he had found the final composite, unique and unrepeatable. And if hundreds of people try it matter? Nothing! In some places it is a must do these types of photos, I'm the first!
This was a photo "to do" and you've done well.
Mine was not a criticism, it was just a point of view, it happened to me to bring home the famous "same picture", and I was not satisfied, so slowly I'm trying to depart from this
Personal opinion eh ;)
A salutone!

André

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sent on November 08, 2011 (12:40)


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Andrè, ti ringrazio del parere.
non ho mai detto di aver fatto una foto ineguagliabile o unica nel suo genere. non sta a me far paragoni con le tue foto, con le foto di Niccolò o con le altre foto che hai linkato e potresti linkare per giorni.
in genere quando esco a fare foto fotografo prima di tutto per me, e non mi interessa molto "l'andare fuori dal coro" o il ricercare per forza la composizione che a nessuno sarebbe venuta in mente.
Mi interessa fare una foto inseguendo un'idea, mettere in pratica un pensiero o un concetto e , ripeto, strafregandomene di quanta altra gente abbia avuto tale pensiero.

finisco auto-citando il mio post precedente "Volevo uno scatto minimalista, che esaltasse il rapporto impari tra uomo e Natura in Islanda, me l'ero prefigurato, e ho voluto portarlo a casa a tutti i costi."

ciao

Andre, thank you for the opinion.
I never said he took a picture of incomparable or unique. is not mine to make comparisons with your photos, with pictures of Nicholas or other photos that you linked and you may link to days.
usually when I go out to take pictures photographer first and foremost for me, and I do not care much "going outside the box" or seek to force the composition that no one would come to mind.
I am interested in pursuing an idea to take a picture, put into practice an idea or a concept and, I repeat, strafregandomene of how many other people have had this thought.

I end up self-citing my previous post "I wanted a shot minimalist that would befit the unequal relationship between man and nature in Iceland, I'd envisioned, and I wanted to take it home at all costs."

hello

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sent on November 08, 2011 (12:53)


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" non ho mai detto di aver fatto una foto ineguagliabile o unica nel suo genere"
E io non l'ho sostenuto, era un discorso generale ;)

" Mi interessa fare una foto inseguendo un'idea, mettere in pratica un pensiero o un concetto e , ripeto, strafregandomene di quanta altra gente abbia avuto tale pensiero. "
Fai benone!

" "Volevo uno scatto minimalista, che esaltasse il rapporto impari tra uomo e Natura in Islanda, me l'ero prefigurato, e ho voluto portarlo a casa a tutti i costi." "
Ce l'hai fatta e devi essere soddisfatto di ciò!

Ci tengo a sottolineare che il mio non era un attacco ma una semplice considerazione riguardo una foto già vista, tutto qui ;)
In gamba e alla prossima!

A.

I never said he took a picture of incomparable or unique

And I have not claimed, was a general discussion ;)

I am interested in pursuing an idea to take a picture, put into practice an idea or a concept and, I repeat, strafregandomene of how many other people have had this thought.

Make fine!

"I wanted a shot minimalist that would befit the unequal relationship between man and nature in Iceland, I'd envisioned, and I wanted to take it home at all costs."

You did it and you have to be happy with that!

I would like to point out that mine was not an attack but a simple statement about a photo already seen, that's all ;)
In leg and the next!

A.

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sent on November 08, 2011 (13:22)


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Mi piace moltissimo, bravo!!!

I love it, bravo!

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sent on November 08, 2011 (13:26)


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un'ottimo scatto ma come ha evidenziato Andrea , poco originale , visto che se ne vedono a migliaia fatti così a questa cascataMrGreen Fatto stà che se ci dovessi andare un giorno anche io ne farei una così ;-)

a very good shot, but as pointed out by Andrea, unoriginal, because if they see thousands like that this fall:-D The fact is that if we were to go one day I would I do such a ;-)

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sent on November 08, 2011 (17:28)


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Foto classica? si! foto facile, assolutamente no!!!!, le immagini già viste non consentono il minimo errore, anzi devono avere un qualcosa in più altrimenti c'è il forte rischio che finiscano ignorate, quindi da parte mia solo complimentiSorriso;-)
Ciao.

Classic print? yes! photo easy, absolutely not!!, images already seen do not allow the slightest mistake, indeed must have something more otherwise there is a high risk to end up ignored, so for me only compliments :-) ;-)
Hello.

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sent on November 08, 2011 (18:08)


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" foto facile, assolutamente no!"

Intendevo tecnicamente ;)

photos easy, absolutely not!


I mean technically ;)

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sent on November 08, 2011 (18:09)


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Sarà poco originale ma io la trovo d'impatto, imponente, complimenti...

Is not very original but I find impact, imposing, compliments ...

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sent on November 08, 2011 (18:15)


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Stile molto interessante e, a vedere i numerosi commenti, apprezzato. Complimenti!

Very interesting style, and see the many comments, appreciated. Congratulations!

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sent on November 08, 2011 (18:16)


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Ecco questa foto che non rispetta i terzi mi piace molto!!

Botty, rispetto agli esempi postati da Andrea, trovo che la tua sia la migliore.



Here is this picture that does not meet the third I really like!

Botty, than the examples posted by Andrea, I find that yours is the best.


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sent on November 08, 2011 (18:45)


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Azz, ora mi sento il cattivo di turno, che credetemi non sono...mi conoscete bene o male ;)

" rispetto agli esempi postati da Andrea, trovo che la tua sia la migliore. "
Senza alcun tipo di dubbio è la migliore. Quelle erano foto prese casualmente come esempio di foto simili, con inquadrature pressoché identiche, magari nemmeno scattate con reflex.
Non voglio sottovalutare il bel lavoro di Botty nè inquinare il post, ci mancherebbe. Questo era solamente il mio pensiero :)


Azz, now I'm the bad guy, are not you trust me ... you know me better or worse ;)

than the examples posted by Andrea, I find that yours is the best.

Without any kind of doubt it is the best. These were photos taken randomly as an example of similar pictures, with almost identical shots, maybe even taken with SLR.
I do not want to underestimate the fine work of Botty nor pollute the post, God forbid. This was just my thoughts :)

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sent on November 08, 2011 (19:02)


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Andrea, il mio commento non era per venire contro agli esempi che hai portato.
Ho capito cosa intendi quando dici che si tratta di uno scatto "classico".
Secondo me il tuo intervento non inquina il 3D anzi... è interessante come punto di vista a cui non avevo minimamente pensato.
Un altro cliché fotografico è il Mont Saint Michel in Francia :P


Botty, guardando i dati di scatto mi sorge un dubbio:
Non sarebbe stato meglio scattare con un diaframma piu aperto in modo da abbassare gli iso e ridurre il rumore sull'acqua? O la pdc non sarebbe stata sufficiente?




Andrea, my comment was not to be compared to the examples you have brought.
I see what you mean when you say that it is one click "classic."
In my opinion your intervention does not pollute the 3D but ... is interesting as a point of view that I had not the slightest thought.
Another cliché photo is the Mont Saint Michel in France: P


Botty, looking at the data I shot a doubt arises:
Would not it be better to shoot at an aperture more open in order to lower the ISO and noise reduction on water? Or the pdc would not have been enough?



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sent on November 08, 2011 (19:23)


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Intanto grazie a tutti, e un grazie speciale ad Andrè che senza volerlo sta mantenendo incredibilmente attivo questo post :D (vai tranquillo non inquini nulla)

@Marsupilami: già usavo il tele, e la distanza tra il soggetto e la cascata comunque c'era...ho considerato f/8 una soglia di sicurezza e ho preferito alzare gli ISO. in realtà comunque il rumore che vedi è più dovuto allo sharpening aggiuntivo post-ridimensionamento che al rumore originale dovuto agli alti ISO...anche perchè diciamo che la D300 sarà anche un po' datata, ma fino a 800-1000 ISO si comporta egregiamente bene.

ciaooo ;)

Meanwhile, thanks to all, and a special thanks to Andre who unintentionally is keeping incredibly active this post: D (go quiet does not pollute anything)

@ Marsupilami: already I was using the remote, and the distance between the subject and the waterfall ... I was still considered f / 8 a safety threshold and I decided to raise the ISO. in reality, however, the noise you see is due to the additional post-scaling sharpening that the original noise due to high ISO ... also because we say that the D300 will be a little 'dated, but up to ISO 800-1000 behaves very well fine.

ciaooo ;)

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sent on November 08, 2011 (21:50)


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MI verrebbe da dire una parolacccia...la scia a te l'interpretazione...." C...o bestiale"

MI would say a parolacccia ... the trail you the interpretation .... "C. .. or bestial"

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sent on November 09, 2011 (0:45)


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imponente...


impressive ...

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sent on November 21, 2011 (10:10)


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Compo veramente ben eseguita. La presenza umana (necessaria) rende l'idea delle proporzioni.
Complimenti.
Lorenzo

Compo really well done. The human presence (necessary) gives an idea of ??the proportions.
Compliments.
Lorenzo

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sent on August 21, 2012 (11:45)


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Splendida!

Ci sono stato e la tua foto rende perfettamente il luogo, la forza e l'imponenza dell'acqua e della natura.

Complimenti.

A titolo di curiosità hai provato a tagliarla un pò in basso lasciando sotto i piedi della turista giusto un filo sottile di terreno?

Gorgeous!

I've been there and your photo makes it perfectly, the strength and majesty of water and nature.

Compliments.

As a curiosity, have you tried to cut it down a little under the feet of tourists leaving just a thin thread of land?

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sent on April 25, 2013 (12:56)


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Spendida composizione, senza la figura umana la cascata non avrebbe reso la sua potenza in modo così mirabile!

Splendid composition, without the human figure, the waterfall would not have made his power so wonderful!

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sent on June 19, 2013 (16:22)


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wooow.....

wooow .....


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