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user123428 | sent on March 08, 2021 (22:15) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I'd say black cheekbone Direi zigolo nero |
| sent on March 08, 2021 (22:51) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
probably a female yellow the black is slightly darker probabilmente una femmina di giallo il nero è leggermente più scuro |
user123428 | sent on March 09, 2021 (19:24) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Bo looks like a female black cheekbone to me, I photographed several in February, it was a small group of about 8 individuals, 2 adult males and many females with the same plumage as the one you photographed, then I'm not an ornithologist and so I don't take it for granted. Bo a me sembra una femmina di zigolo nero, ne ho fotografate diverse nel mese di febbraio, era un gruppetto di circa 8 individui, 2 maschi adulti e molte femmine con il piumaggio identico a quello da te fotografato, poi nn sono ornitologo e quindi non lo do per scontato. |
| sent on March 09, 2021 (20:00) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Lorenzo honestly didn't even have black cheekbones I photographed a little bit of yellow is the first time and I relied on people more experienced than me so I don't know what to say I rely on experts Lorenzo onestamente nemmeno io di zigoli neri ne ho fotografati un po' il giallo è la prima volta e mi sono affidato a gente più esperta di me quindi non saprei che dire mi affido agli esperti |
user123428 | sent on March 09, 2021 (20:07) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
I allowed myself to send your photo to alessio quaglierini who is an ornithologist that I know well, so it takes away our doubt, in winter the females of yellows and blacks easily get confused Mi sono permesso di mandare la tua foto ad alessio quaglierini che è un ornitologo che conosco bene, così ci toglie il dubbio, in inverno le femmine dei gialli e neri si confondono facilmente |
| sent on March 09, 2021 (20:51) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
ok thank you no problem indeed ok grazie nessun problema anzi |
user123428 | sent on March 09, 2021 (21:52) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Then , Alessio Quaglierini replied by writing to me:
Femin of black cheekbone, fawn back( in yellow it is greenish-brown) eye-length and cheeked streaks very wide (narrow and less long in yellow) finely streaked subgola (almost without streaks in yellow) apex of whitish tertiary covers (yellowish-brown in yellow) Allora , alessio quaglierini mi ha risposto scrivendomi:
Femmina di zigolo nero, dorso fulvo( nel giallo è bruno-verdastro) strie oculare e dalla guancia molto larghe ( strette e meno lunghe nel giallo) sottogola finemente striato (quasi senza strie nel giallo) apice delle copritrici terziarie biancastro (bruno-giallastro nel giallo) |
| sent on March 09, 2021 (21:59) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Ok thank you so much Ok grazie mille |
user123428 | sent on March 09, 2021 (22:02) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Domenico, Quaglierini has contacted me again, he is not black but female of yellow. Domenico, Quaglierini mi ha ricontattato, non é nero ma femmina di giallo. |
| sent on March 09, 2021 (22:03) | This comment has been translated
Great! |
user123428 | sent on March 09, 2021 (22:07) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
He thinks that he too had to double-check well, in fact he told me that at this time the females of yellows and blacks can be confused easily, cmq you were right, I assumed that he was black :-) Pensa che anche lui ha dovuto ricontrollare bene, infatti mi ha detto che in questo periodo le femmine dei gialli e neri si possono confondere facilmente, cmq avevi ragione te, io davo per scontato che era nero  |
| sent on March 09, 2021 (22:23) | This comment has been automatically translated (show/hide original)
Thanks to you for being informed also this serves the forums Grazie a te per esserti informato anche a questo servono i forum |
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